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Procedure or act X occurred (or is planned) or that a specific problem is
 
Procedure or act X occurred (or is planned) or that a specific problem is
 
unknown?
 
unknown?
 
This should work for CDA R2, "old style V3" (as long as we have DSTUs or
 
standards in this state) and new V3 messaging. This would not necessarily
 
mean one solution if not possible (e.g. introduction of actionNegationInd
 
which isn't present in CDA R2).
 
  
 
I saw different approaches and would like to hear what can recommended to
 
I saw different approaches and would like to hear what can recommended to
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unavailable in CDA R2, too.
 
unavailable in CDA R2, too.
  
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=Seeking for recommendations=
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This should work for CDA R2, "old style V3" (as long as we have DSTUs or
 +
standards in this state) and new V3 messaging. This would not necessarily
 +
mean one solution if not possible (e.g. introduction of actionNegationInd
 +
which isn't present in CDA R2).
  
=Seeking for recommendations=
 
 
I am seeking for a "strong" recommendation from InM.
 
I am seeking for a "strong" recommendation from InM.
  

Revision as of 15:27, 16 January 2013

Background

Out of several projects over here the question came up: Is there a recommended way in HL7 to say that it is unknown whether Procedure or act X occurred (or is planned) or that a specific problem is unknown?

I saw different approaches and would like to hear what can recommended to the HL7 community.

So far

Condensed conversations so far

Lloyd

The Act.uncertaintyCode is probably the best way

Kai

…is one option I saw… Personally I am not convinced that expressing "unknown" and "unsure" is the always the same.

Gaby, Keith

Per consolidated CDA, I believe what you are saying would be

<entry>
  <substanceAdministration moodCode="EVN" classCode="SBADM" nullFlavor="NI">
  <text>I do not know whether or not patient received an anticoagulant drug</text>
  <consumable>
    <manufacturedProduct>
      <manufacturedLabeledDrug>
      <code code="81839001" displayName="anticoagulant drug" codeSystem="2.16.840.1.113883.6.96" codeSystemName="SNOMED CT"/>
      ...

More

Use actionNegationInd. Unfortunately actionNegationInd is immutable and thus a structural attribute. Again you cannot use it to express a null flavor here. It is unavailable in CDA R2, too.

Seeking for recommendations

This should work for CDA R2, "old style V3" (as long as we have DSTUs or standards in this state) and new V3 messaging. This would not necessarily mean one solution if not possible (e.g. introduction of actionNegationInd which isn't present in CDA R2).

I am seeking for a "strong" recommendation from InM.