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Jean Duteau (M&M, PC), Woody Beeler (M&M), Mead Walker (RCRIM), Melva Peters (Education), Julie James, Hugh Glover (Pharmacy), Ted Klein (Vocabulary), Alexander Henket (), Wendy Huang (), Lorraine Constable (ArB), Andy Stechishin (Tooling, Publishing), Calvin Beebe (SD), Lloyd McKenzie (M&M, FHIR), Dale Nelson (ITS), Abdul-Malik Shakir (M&M, CIC)
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Jean Duteau (M&M, PC), Woody Beeler (M&M), Mead Walker (RCRIM), Melva Peters (Education), Julie James (Pharmacy, RCRIM), Hugh Glover (Pharmacy), Ted Klein (Vocabulary), Alexander Henket (Patient Admin), Wendy Huang (Patient Admin), Lorraine Constable (O&O, ArB), Andy Stechishin (AID, Tooling, Publishing), Rob Hausam (Vocabulary, O&O), Calvin Beebe (SD), Lloyd McKenzie (M&M, FHIR), Dale Nelson (ITS), Abdul-Malik Shakir (M&M, CIC)
  
 
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Revision as of 23:44, 23 January 2014

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Sunday Jan. 19 Q3

Attendees

Beebe, Calvin (Mayo Clinic)
Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Duteau, Jean (Duteau Design Inc)
Duteau, Katherine (Duteau Design Inc)
Jeong, Dongil (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)
Kreisler, Austin (Leidos, Inc.)
Lee, DoYoun (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)
Loyd, Patrick (ICode Solutions)
McKenzie, Lloyd (Gordon Point Informatics (HL7 Canada))
Smithies, Rik (NProgram Ltd)
Song, Joon Hyun (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)

Agenda

  • Review of Hot Topics
  • Review of Agenda Sessions
  • New Motions

Review of Hot Topics

  • No new hot topics have been brought up since the last WGM
  • Rik raised the issue of how to populate IVL_TS. M&M does not normally provide instance implementation guidance. That perhaps could be something that AID (formerly RIMBAA) does.
  • Structured Documents are looking into a refresh of the CDA model which may raise some Hot Topic discussion.
  • The BlockedContextConduction hot topic might be one that CDA will need. It was discussed that this is a technical issue - context conduction is working, but the attribute is defined in the RIM incorrectly.
  • Action: Jean will take on bringing the existing hot topics to the mailing list with an eye towards closing as many as we can.
  • The UDI Task Force will have a recommendation coming forward which might result in a Pattern Harmonization discussion. Not at this WGM but in May.
  • Remove the Monday Q1 Hot Topics session

Review of Agenda Sessions

  • No FHIR core team present at Tue Q3 so probably no need for that session
  • No meeting on Thursday Q2
  • Discussion of FHIR as a work group since M&M may not be meeting other than jointly or as FHIR work. M&M should be model-based methodology workgroup which means that FHIR should remain part of M&M
  • Tue Q2 activities were covered in this session (see below). Tue Q1 is also dropped due to no need of discussion.

Core Principles Ballot

  • FDA and Siemens have not withdrawn their votes
  • MOTION: Hold a recirculation ballot to override the three negative votes. Woody/Austin 10-0-0

RIM Ballot

  • MOTION: Ballot Next RIM Release in September 2014 ONLY rather than in both May and September because in last 3 cycles we have needed only one cycle and should always finish in September. Katherine/Patrick 10-0-0

Wednesday Jan. 22 Q1 - Hosting Joint with Vocabulary and FHIR

Attendees

Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Couderc, Carmela (Siemens Healthcare)
Daoust, Norman (Daoust Associates)
de Moel, Ed (Hawaii Resource Group)
Fillmore, Chris (Systems Made Simple)
Fine, Steven (Cerner Corporation)
Geimer, Rick (Lantana Consulting Group)
Grain, Heather (Standards Australia, eHealth Education)
Haddorff, Rick (Mayo Clinic)
Hamm, Russell (Lantana Consulting Group)
Hendler, Peter (Kaiser Permanente)
Hirai, Masaaki (HL7 Japan Voter #2 - Nihon Kohden Corp, Eng. Oper.)
Huang, Wendy (Canada Health Infoway Inc.)
James, Julie (Blue Wave Informatics)
Klein, William Ted (Klein Consulting, Inc.)
Mandel, Josh (Boston Children's Hospital)
McKenzie, Lloyd (Gordon Point Informatics (HL7 Canada))
Parimi, Sailaja (Cerner Corporation)
Parker, Craig (Intermountain Healthcare)
Smithies, Rik (NProgram Ltd)
Takasaka, Sadamu (HL7 Japan)
Ting, Jeffrey (Systems Made Simple, Inc.)
Warden, Robert (HL7 - UK)

Agenda

Value Set Definition Project

Ted Klein provided an introduction to this project which is tracked on the wiki as Value Set Definition Standard Project. Initiated a year ago to consolidate and standardize the structure and content of a Value Set definition wherever used in HL7 specifications. Also relates to US and other realm activities around value set definition.

Reviewed progress in last 12 months, and the draft documents being maintained collaboratively in Google Docs from the Wiki. Klein provided an overview of the 48 elements that are likely to be part of "definition" of a Value Set.

Switched to discussion of the beginnings of a draft and future plans. Current plan is to work through the Jan-May cycle with the goal of a Normative ballot in the May2014 Ballot. The specification is a "Logical" model or representation. Core principles contains the conceptual model for this, and things like the MIF become the physical implementations of this logical model.

Motion: Klein moved to state that this document be approved for the intent to ballot in the May Ballot Cycle. Klein/Lyle 21-0-1

Wednesday Jan. 22 Q2 - Hosting Joint with Vocabulary and FHIR

Attendees

Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Couderc, Carmela (Siemens Healthcare)
Daoust, Norman (Daoust Associates)
de Moel, Ed (Hawaii Resource Group)
Fillmore, Chris (Systems Made Simple)
Fine, Steven (Cerner Corporation)
Geimer, Rick (Lantana Consulting Group)
Grain, Heather (Standards Australia, eHealth Education)
Haddorff, Rick (Mayo Clinic)
Hamm, Russell (Lantana Consulting Group)
Hendler, Peter (Kaiser Permanente)
Hirai, Masaaki (HL7 Japan Voter #2 - Nihon Kohden Corp, Eng. Oper.)
Huang, Wendy (Canada Health Infoway Inc.)
James, Julie (Blue Wave Informatics)
Klein, William Ted (Klein Consulting, Inc.)
Mandel, Josh (Boston Children's Hospital)
McKenzie, Lloyd (Gordon Point Informatics (HL7 Canada))
Parimi, Sailaja (Cerner Corporation)
Parker, Craig (Intermountain Healthcare)
Smithies, Rik (NProgram Ltd)
Takasaka, Sadamu (HL7 Japan)
Ting, Jeffrey (Systems Made Simple, Inc.)
Warden, Robert (HL7 - UK)

Agenda

FHIR & Vocabulary

McKenzie undertook a discussion of the proposed FHIR "Namespace" Resource, with a view to consideration of a registry of such resources might subsume the requirements of the current HL7 OID Registry. Agreed on steps to search out additional data requirements imposed for ISO OID registries, and to undertake a transform that could convert OIDs registered here and expressed via FHIR into the format needed to exchange content with coordinated OID registries being developed internationally.

Agree should map the FHIR resource spec to the ISO interchange requirements.

Discussion of FHIR QA

McKenzie noted that a FHIR QA activity was underway with "criteria" being developed for documentation in MnM and subsequent adoption by FHIR Governance Board.

Thursday Jan. 23 Q1

Attendees

Arndt, Brad (Cerner)
Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Donnelly, Michael (Epic)
Edidin, Howard (Edidin Group, Inc.)
Hirai, Masaaki (HL7 Japan Voter #2 - Nihon Kohden Corp, Eng. Oper.)
Jeong, Dongil (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)
Lee, DoYoun (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)
Lynch, Cecil (Accenture)
McKenzie, Lloyd (Gordon Point Informatics (HL7 Canada))
Moldeklev, Elisabeth (Helse Vest IKT)
Reppen, Bertil (Apertura)
Sandvik, Steinar (Helse Vest IKT AS)
Smithies, Rik (NProgram Ltd)
Song, Joon Hyun (IHIS Research Center in Kyungpook National University)
Swegel, Chuck (GE)
Tanji, Natsuki (HL7 Japan Voter #9)
Walker, D. Mead (Mead Walker Consulting)
Wefring, Marius (Helse Vest IKT AS)

Agenda

FHIR Methodology

McKenzie introduced the FHIR Methodology "Questions" on the FHIR Wiki. He noted that the focus today was to identify "quality measures" or checkpoints to manage. Process is to collect "issues" then turn those into a set of "rules" that become part of the methodology and can be tested for QA. Details of the discussions follow: <<TBD>>

Thursday Jan. 19 Evening - Facilitator's Roundtable

Attendees

Jean Duteau (M&M, PC), Woody Beeler (M&M), Mead Walker (RCRIM), Melva Peters (Education), Julie James (Pharmacy, RCRIM), Hugh Glover (Pharmacy), Ted Klein (Vocabulary), Alexander Henket (Patient Admin), Wendy Huang (Patient Admin), Lorraine Constable (O&O, ArB), Andy Stechishin (AID, Tooling, Publishing), Rob Hausam (Vocabulary, O&O), Calvin Beebe (SD), Lloyd McKenzie (M&M, FHIR), Dale Nelson (ITS), Abdul-Malik Shakir (M&M, CIC)

Agenda

  • Schedule 2014 Harmonization
  • Project to Define a HL7 Facilitator
  • Facilitators' Reports

Schedule 2014 Harmonization

  • First Trimester -
    Harmonization: March 11-12-13, 2014 (Tuesday thru Thursday)
    Initial deadline: February 9, 2014, 11:59PM
    Technical Review: On or about February 13, 2014
    Final deadline: March 2, 2014, 11:59PM
  • Second Trimester -
    Harmonization: July 22-25, 2014 (Tuesday thru Friday)
    Initial RIM ballot for RIM R7 opens 8 days after the end of this meeting and must include all RIM changes approved at this meeting.
    Initial deadline: June 22, 2014, 11:59PM
    Technical Review: On or about June 26, 2014
    Final deadline: July 13, 2014, 11:59PM
  • Third Trimester -
    Harmonization: November 18-21, 2014 (Tuesday thru Friday)
    First two days overlap AMIA fall meeting
    Initial deadline: October 19, 2014, 11:59PM
    Technical Review: On or about October 23, 2014
    Final deadline: November 9, 2014, 11:59PM

Plan "Project" to Review and Define the Role of "Facilitator" in HL7

Considerations arise from discussions in the Foundation and Technology Steering Division meeting on Monday evening this week. In brief, there are numerous "kinds" of Facilitator in HL7 today. These individuals:

  • fulfill a variety of roles that require a variety of technical knowledge;
  • must have sound communication ability; *must be able to act as a liaison between two or more Work Groups; and
  • have never existed in "sufficient" numbers.

Questions to be considered include:

  • Should each different technical requirement (modeling, vocabulary, publishing, etc.) have a "named Kind" of facilitator (like "Project Facilitator"), or could a list of capabilities for each Facilitator suffice?
  • Should Facilitators be "qualified" and, if so, how?
  • Is there a need for a "community" (perhaps a Work Group) for Facilitators, or might the "Roundtable" suffice?

Related Information

For reference, Heather Grain has provided a File:Facilitator Training Outline V0.2.docx from Vocabulary

MnM definitions about Modeling Facilitation on Wiki

Facilitators' Reports

Patient Care - M&M - RCRIM - Pharmacy - Vocabulary - Patient Administration - Orders & Observations - Structured Documents - FHIR -

Friday Jan. 24 Q2

Attendees

Agenda

MnM Business

FHIR Follow-up