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MnM Minutes WGM 201305 Atlanta

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Sunday May 5 Q3

Agenda

  • Hot topic triage
  • Agenda planning

Attendees

Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Grieve, Grahame (Health Intersections Pty Ltd)
Hay, David (HL7 New Zealand)
Kramer, Ewout (Furore)
Loyd, Patrick (ICode Solutions)
McKenzie, Lloyd (HL7 Canada)
Shakir, AbdulMalik (City of Hope National Medical Center)
Stechishin, Andy (CANA Software & Services Ltd.)
Walker, D. Mead (Mead Walker Consulting)

Hot topics

1. RIM ballot reconciliation - Fixed values for collections of repeating attributes - What's the RIM default - How do we make it work in the schema generator

2. Lloyd will close the "social media" hot topic

3. Discussed "Model to Template Relationship", but no need to bring it up as a hot topic

4. Data types vocabulary schemas - what are we allowed to do within the framework of the ISO spec

5. FHIR RIM mappings - What will RIM mapping look like? - What do we do when the RIM can't do it? - What will it achieve?

Will tackle #1 and #4 in this meeting, #5 slotted for joint FHIR/MnM discussion For Wed Q3, will host FHIR (will release room 219)

Release rooms for Tue Q1, Tue Q4

Move SAIF Artifact Definition Project from Tuesday Q4 to Thursday Q2

Motion: approve agenda for WGM - Woody/Patrick

RIM ballot reconciliation

1. Dale's 2 comments - not persuasive 7-0-1 (Woody/Grahame) 2. blocked context conduction relationships:

  • will create value sets containing conductable act relationship codes
  • can create a new value set that constrains the base value sets as per the rules in Core principles
  • can create a fixed value that is a "list of codes" that draws from the codes in the value set
  • need to verify this will propagate properly through the tools to the schemas
  • will document this in Core principles

Motion: Woody/Grahame 5-0-0

Woody takes action item to update Core Principles

Based on the above, Woody withdraws his negatives

Data type vocabulary schemes

Monday May 6 Q1

Agenda

Chair - Beeler & Grieve

  • FHIR Methodology

Attendees

Abrahao, Marivan (HL7 Brazil)
Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)
Cabrita, Rolim (Interfaceware)
Duteau, Jean (Duteau Design Inc)
Fine, Steven (Cerner Corporation)
Glinski, Steve (Surescripts)
Grieve, Grahame (Health Intersections Pty Ltd)
Henderson, Mike (Eastern Informatics, Inc.)
Jewell, Gabriele (Cerner Corporation)
Konishi, Yukinori (HL7 Japan)
Liu, Andrew (HL7 Canada)
Lynch, Cecil (Accenture)
Moehrke, John (GE Healthcare)
Parker, Ron (HL7 Canada)
Ryal, Tod (Cerner Corporation)
Shaver, Dave (Corepoint Health)
Smithies, Rik (HL7 UK)
Takasaka, Sadamu (HL7 Japan)
Walker, D. Mead (Mead Walker Consulting)
Wong, Nat (HL7 Australia)
Worden, Robert (Open Mapping Software)
Kavanagh, Richard (NHS England)
Walia, Randeep (Grafight Scratch, Inc.)
Murty, Kurella (Roche)

Topic: must-understand

Discussion of mustUnderstand - Motion from G Grieve/Rik Smithies to "Rename must-Understand to is-Modifier, and add sentence saying that you must explain why it is that you think it is a modifier and/or what it modifies."

Approved 25-0-0

Topic: Various

Discussions around "messaging-like" paradigm with FHUR similar to V2, can be defined and has been tested.

Discussions on "Profile" resource and what is does. Is rather larger than desired. Was noted that although it is defined as a Resource, it is unlikely to be exchanged as instances.

Security and FHIR

There is a Wiki document in the "FHIR Publication" that is being built with the guidance of Security Work Group lists security-related issues when using FHIR, and how and where these might be addressed.

Monday May 6 Q2

Agenda

  • Host FHIR
  • FHIR Methodology

Attendees

Topic 1

Monday May 6 Q3

Agenda

  • Joint w/FHIR, ITS
  • FHIR Infrastructure issues

Attendees

Topic 1

Monday May 6 Q4

Agenda

  • Joint w/FHIR, ITS
  • FHIR Infrastructure issues

Attendees

Topic 1

Tuesday May 7 Q2

Agenda

  • "Ask MnM"

Attendees

Topic 1

Tuesday May 7 Q3

Joint w/ Structure Documents (refer to their minutes)


Wednesday May 8 Q1

Agenda

  • Host Vocab
  •  ???

Attendees

Topic 1

Wednesday May 8 Q2

Agenda

  • Host Vocab, FHIR
  • FHIR Vocabulary

Attendees

Topic 1

Wednesday May 8 Q3

Agenda

  • Host FHIR
  • FHIR Core

Attendees

Topic 1

Thursday May 9 Q1

Agenda

  • FHIR Methodology

Attendees

Topic 1

Thursday May 9 Q2

Agenda

  • SAIF Artifact Definition

Attendees

Topic 1

Thursday May 9 Q5-Q6

Agenda

  • MnM Roundtable

Attendees

Topic 1

Thursday May 9 Q2

Agenda

  • SAIF Artifact Definition

Attendees

Topic 1

Friday May 10 Q2

Agenda

  • Meeting planning

Attendees

Topic 1