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* Update on MIF-to-UML work at OMG
 
* Update on MIF-to-UML work at OMG
 
===Attendees===
 
===Attendees===
Woody Beeler, Alexander Henket, Patrick Loyd, Jean Duteau, Brian Pech, Rik Smithies, Robert Worden, Rene Spronk, Lorraine Constable
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* Woody Beeler, Alexander Henket, Patrick Loyd, Jean Duteau, Brian Pech, Rik Smithies, Robert Worden, Rene Spronk, Lorraine Constable
 
===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===
Discussion of Query Mechanism to specify a template for the response
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* Discussion of Query Mechanism to specify a template for the response
  
 
We discussed the use cases for this requirement.
 
We discussed the use cases for this requirement.
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This is revising a harmonization proposal "Add QuerySpec.responseTemplateid attribute" (also on the Wiki)
 
This is revising a harmonization proposal "Add QuerySpec.responseTemplateid attribute" (also on the Wiki)
  
-There was a comment that we do not have a real implementation of "Query By Example" so the argument against ParameterItem due to QBE requirements was not deemed sufficient.
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**There was a comment that we do not have a real implementation of "Query By Example" so the argument against ParameterItem due to QBE requirements was not deemed sufficient.
-The RIM definition of ParameterItem does not preclude sending the templateID as a parameter item.
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**The RIM definition of ParameterItem does not preclude sending the templateID as a parameter item.
-This seems akin to the QueryLimit information.
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**This seems akin to the QueryLimit information.
-It was deemed that this proposal was the easiest  
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**It was deemed that this proposal was the easiest  
-Currently the proposal is suggesting all templates must be satisfied.  There appears to be a use case for "one of" the templates to be satisfied.
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**Currently the proposal is suggesting all templates must be satisfied.  There appears to be a use case for "one of" the templates to be satisfied.
-What should the datatype be?  In R1, SET<II>, in R2, QSET<II>.  ACTION: Determine what the datatype should be.
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**What should the datatype be?  In R1, SET<II>, in R2, QSET<II>.  ACTION: Determine what the datatype should be.
-It appears that we could "undeprecate" the ResponseElementGroupId parameter that had been deprecated.
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**It appears that we could "undeprecate" the ResponseElementGroupId parameter that had been deprecated.
  
 
ACTION: InM will advance the harmonization proposal for the next harmonization meeting.
 
ACTION: InM will advance the harmonization proposal for the next harmonization meeting.
  
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*Update on MIF-to-UML work at OMG
 
Jean presented a summary of his lunchtime conversation with Robert Lario.
 
Jean presented a summary of his lunchtime conversation with Robert Lario.
 
Robert will be producing a document that summarizes the analysis.  He has requested some volunteer hours to help produce the report.
 
Robert will be producing a document that summarizes the analysis.  He has requested some volunteer hours to help produce the report.

Revision as of 15:19, 6 October 2010

Sunday,Oct 3, 2010 - Q3

Agenda

  • Agenda Topics Review
  • Hot Topics Triage

Minutes

PRESENT: Woody Beeler, Lorraine Constable, John Koisch, Bruce McKinnon, Austin Kreisler, Mead Walker, Gregg Seppala, Andy Stechishin, Jean Duteau, Kathleen Connor, Brian Pech, Anil Luthra, Kevin Coonan, Rene Spronk, Sarah Gaunt, Grahame Grieve, David O'Driscoll, David Rowed, Michael Steine, Anita Walden

Agenda Discussion

  • Hot Topics to discuss
    • MnM Involvement with SAIF, including BF
    • TemplateId on the Query Response
    • Behavioural Framework (Join OO)
    • Versioning
    • Attribute Context Conduction
    • Role Link
    • CMET status + DCM concerns

No Tue Q2 and no Wed Q2.

Action Items

  • ACTION: Grahame will update the WGM schedule and email it to the list.

Monday, October 4, 2010 - Q3

Agenda

  • MIF2 Reconcilliation

Attendees

Minutes/Motions

Monday, October 6, 2010 - Q4

Agenda

  • Core Principles Reconcilliation

Attendees

NO QUORUM

Tuesday, October 7, 2010 - Q1

Attendees

  • Grahame Grieve, Woody Beeler, Jean Duteau

Agenda

  • Core Principles Reconciliation

Minutes

Core Principles Reconciliation

  • Worked through the Negatives assigned to Grahame and some of the Negatives assigned to Woody.
  • Brought Lloyd in to discuss two comments that needed in-person discussion.

Meeting adjourned

Tuesday, October 7, 2010 - Q3

Agenda

  • Hot Topics - "MnM Involvement with SAIF, including BF"

Attendees

Minutes

Tuesday, October 7, 2010 - Q4

Agenda

  • Hot Topics - "Query Mechanism which specifies templates for the response"
  • Update on MIF-to-UML work at OMG

Attendees

  • Woody Beeler, Alexander Henket, Patrick Loyd, Jean Duteau, Brian Pech, Rik Smithies, Robert Worden, Rene Spronk, Lorraine Constable

Minutes

  • Discussion of Query Mechanism to specify a template for the response

We discussed the use cases for this requirement. We discussed the rejected alternatives. -interaction per query -make the new template ID a parameter

This is revising a harmonization proposal "Add QuerySpec.responseTemplateid attribute" (also on the Wiki)

    • There was a comment that we do not have a real implementation of "Query By Example" so the argument against ParameterItem due to QBE requirements was not deemed sufficient.
    • The RIM definition of ParameterItem does not preclude sending the templateID as a parameter item.
    • This seems akin to the QueryLimit information.
    • It was deemed that this proposal was the easiest
    • Currently the proposal is suggesting all templates must be satisfied. There appears to be a use case for "one of" the templates to be satisfied.
    • What should the datatype be? In R1, SET<II>, in R2, QSET<II>. ACTION: Determine what the datatype should be.
    • It appears that we could "undeprecate" the ResponseElementGroupId parameter that had been deprecated.

ACTION: InM will advance the harmonization proposal for the next harmonization meeting.

  • Update on MIF-to-UML work at OMG

Jean presented a summary of his lunchtime conversation with Robert Lario. Robert will be producing a document that summarizes the analysis. He has requested some volunteer hours to help produce the report. The next step after the report appears to be to build a super-profile.

Wednesday, October 6, 2010 - Q1

Agenda

  • Hosting Joint with Vocabulary - MIF Reconciliation

Attendees

Minutes

Thursday, October 7, 2010 - Q1

Agenda

  • Hot Topics - "Versioning"

Attendees

Minutes

Thursday, October 7, 2010 - Q2

Agenda

  • Hot Topics - "Attribute Conduction"

Attendees

Minutes

Thursday, October 7, 2010 - Facilitator's Roundtable

Agenda

Attendees

Minutes

Friday, October 8, 2010 - Q1

Agenda

  • Hot Topics - "Role Link"

Attendees

Minutes

Friday, October 8, 2010 - Q2

Agenda

  • Planning and Schedule for Sydney
  • CMET Status
  • DCM Concerns

Attendees

Minutes