This wiki has undergone a migration to Confluence found Here
<meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">

MnM Minutes WGM 201001 Phoenix

From HL7Wiki
Revision as of 00:31, 20 January 2010 by Gwbeeler (talk | contribs)
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - Q3

Agenda

  • Agenda Topics Review
  • Hot Topics Triage

Minutes

PRESENT: Rene Spronk, Austin Kreisler, Mead Walker, Grahame Grieve, Larry Reis, Sarah Gaunt, Ravi, Dave Barnett, Andy Stechishin, Lorraine Constable, Steven Chu, Hugh Glover, Jean Duteau, Lloyd McKenzie, Woody Beeler, Aaron Shabo, Dale Nelson

  • Agenda Discussion
  • Hot Topics to discuss
    • Context Conduction
    • ActMood cleanup
    • "Observation Grab Bags" and "AdministrativeObservations vs Explicit Modeling"
    • Static Model Quality Checklist
  • Discussion of Incomplete Static Models - will continue offline between Lloyd and Grahame
  • Discussion of Static Model Quality Checklist

NOTES ON HOT TOPICS:

  • Act in DEF is combined into ActMood cleanup
  • Close ActMood and Inert vs Descriptive
  • Split out Design Patterns into as their own Wiki category and an approval/endorsement process for these patterns.
  • Move "ParameterItem.semanticsText" to ITS
  • Close Interaction and Versioning
  • Close Name and Address Priority
  • Close Requested Act
  • Remove V3 Substantivity as a hot topic.

ACTION: Lloyd will review ArB's Substantive Change document. MnM will review those comments and bring to the attention of the ArB.

MOTION: Accept Agenda as amended. Andy/Grahame

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - Q4

Agenda

  • Tooling Walkthrough

Monday, January 18, 2010 - Q1

Agenda

  • Hot Topic - Static Model Quality Checklist

Minutes

PRESENT: Woody Beeler, Rik Smithies, JD Li, Ravi, Jean Duteau, Andy Stechishin, Lloyd McKenzie, Dale Nelson, Brian Pech,

  • Changes were made to the wiki page
    • Links to specific information will be added where possible

Monday, January 18, 2010 - Q2

Agenda

  • Ballot Planning

Minutes

PRESENT: Woody Beeler, Brian Pech, Jean Duteau, Lloyd McKenzie, Dale Nelson, Ravi,

  • Ballot Planning
    • MIF Document Discussion
      • Release the initial document to MnM, Vocab, Others
      • Complete Requirements documentation re status models, isolate the UML documentation in selected renderings
      • Changes to get to MIF 2.2.0 and make it a release - Ballot will be on 2.2.0
      • Seek MnM Blessing and publish (this will be tracked on
    • RIM Ballot
      • will continue with balloting the RIM (with Datatypes R2) as an approval mechanism
      • harmonization will continue to be the way for changes to the RIM
    • DT R2 Plans
      • Normative 2010 will be Datatypes R1. We will electronically publish a Datatypes R2 version to be used for comparison purposes.
      • Normative 2011 will be Datatypes R2.

MOTION: DN, JD Adopt the above plans for RIM Balloting with respect to Datatypes R2.

Monday, January 18, 2010 - Q3

Agenda

  • Observation Grab-bags

Minutes

PRESENT: Dale Nelson, Lloyd McKenzie,Woody Beeler, Gregg Seppala, Wendy Huang, Hugh Grant, John Koish, Grahame Grieve

See notes captured in "Discussion" section of hot topic: Administrative Observations vs. Explicit Modeling

Monday, January 18, 2010 - Q4

Agenda

  • Ballot reconciliation and planning for Core Principles ballot

Minutes

PRESENT: Dale Nelson, Lloyd McKenzie,Woody Beeler, JD Li

Reviewed the comments that came in in the recent Draft-for-comment ballot. Determined that virtually all will fall under one of the planned changes agreed-upon in Atlanta (Sep2009). Will complete the review as the next version is developed and schedule a formal reconciliation call, if needed.

Agreed to force preparation of next release by scheduling a submission deadline on February 19, 2010 to (and from) Beeler, with the intent to review and seek approval of the release from M&M on the February 26, 2010 conference call.

Adjourned after 35 minutes.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - Q1

Agenda

  • Context Conduction Discussion

Minutes

PRESENT: Lloyd McKenzie, Jean Duteau, Grahame Grieve, Sarah Gaunt, Tod Ryal, Rob Hausam, Lorraine Constable, Brian Pech, Ernst de Bel, Ewaut Kramer, Michael van der Zel, Stacy Bersen, Rene Spronk, Peter Hendlev, Charlie Bishop, Rik Smithies, Woody Beeler

Discussed the current problem of context conduction - which is that it is unclear about how it should work and possibly how it currently works.

There was a discussion of removing the context conduction and that did not seem to be feasible.

There was a discussion of looking at each Participation and ActRelationship and identify what conducts for each code.

Lloyd proposed the following:

  • Deprecate Participation.contextControlCode, ActRelationship.contextControlCode, ActRelationship.contextConductionInd
  • Create two attributes on ActRelationship: actRelationshipNonConducting : SET<CS>, participationNonConducting : SET<CS>
    • No static models can prohibit the use of these attributes.
    • Disallowing a code also disallows its subsumed codes.
  • Only certain types of information do conduct - it would be made explicit which ActRelationship and Participation types conduct. We will add a concept property to indicate this.
  • For types that conduct, they always conduct and are always additive (to override, you need to block and redefine). Redefinition is required if negationInd is true - and redefine participation.negationInd.
  • Conduction still works by following the serialization of models

MOTION: accept the proposal (WB/JD) 15-0-2

From the proposal, the actions are:

  • go through Charlie's list of documented issues (Charlie)
  • write this up as a formal proposal with an implementation plan (Lloyd)
  • present this to the facilitator's round table (Lloyd)
  • work through some explicit models (Lloyd/Grahame)
  • Discuss further on the March 5th conference call (MnM)
  • document the difference between constraints on an act on wire and the actual associations that an act gets through conduction

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - Q4

Agenda

  • ActMood Cleanup Proposal

Minutes

PRESENT: Lloyd McKenzie, Grahame Grieve, Rik Smithies, Woody Beeler, Irma Jongeneel, Wendy Huang, Andy Stechishin

The meeting was devoted to reviewing and amending a proposal received from Grieve to clean up the descriptions and hierarchical relationships in the ActMood code system.

The proposal stemmed from a negative ballot comment received against the RIM in May 2009. The ballot reconciliation at that time found the proposal Persuasive and asked that a detailed proposal be prepared and considered for inclusion in the next RIM release (which will start ballot in May 2010).

The proposal was reviewed and edited on-screen, and (Grahame place the document so that it ...) is available here.

MOTION: Authorize Grahame Grieve to complete the proposal edited here and to submit it as a RIM Harmonization proposal in next Harmonization cycle. Beeler moved/Grieve seconded 6-0-1