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=M&M Ballot Reconciliation Conf. Call 4:00 PM Eastern (Date above)=
 
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=Agenda - Core Principles Reconciliation=
 
=Agenda - Core Principles Reconciliation=
==Working document==
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No quorumAgenda re-posted for 7/22/2010
The working document is the [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/ballots/2010MAY/reconciliation/recon_v3_cppv3models_r1_n3_2010may.xls reconciliation spreadsheet] posted on HL7 Ballot DesktopItems are collected by the entries on the "Comment Grouping" column.
 
==Comment Grouping "GWB-GG (Neg-Mi)"==
 
Four items designated Negative in this grouping
 
===Item 20 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Link to : "../conformance/conformance.htm"
 
=====Discussion:=====
 
Voter note: Is this an official document? If so, should have a link
 
===Item 26 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
 
Suggest change to:
 
 
 
As noted earlier in this section [link previous four words to #coreP_V3_RIM_and_Datatypes] there are numerous "types" defined in HL7 V3 models.  For this discussion, the prmary types are "class" and "data type".
 
=====Voter:=====
 
Section 3 has a definition of type that should be somehow tied in here, this phrase in column J is not helpful to understanding section 3.4. 
 
===Item 36 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Link is to :
 
../templates/templates.htm#TemplateExampleApplied
 
=====Voter:=====
 
Need official reference
 
===Item 37 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
 
Change the last two sentences under number 8 to read:
 
 
 
Thus, for example, the assertion of a different primary performer for a descendant class simply means that there will be two such performers listed - the conducted performer and the addition. In this example, when using the current (new) context control structure, one can accomplish the equivalent of a participation "override" (from the prior context control structure) the "PRF" participation code in the ActRelationship leading to the descendant, and assigning a new performer Participation to the descendant. (Note that the new performer then becomes part of the conductible content of the Act for which the performer has been overridden.)
 
 
 
Also SEE NOTE AT ITEM 172
 
=====Voter:=====
 
Is this referring to the 'old way'? If not, and this refers to the new way of doing things, then the text should not use the word override as a way to explain - yes I see it in quotes, but its still override, which is no longer used. (which by the way is sometimes spelled override, and in this sentence is over-ride - should be consistent)
 
==Comment Grouping "GWB-GG - A-*"==
 
13 items with an Annotation (A-*) vote.
 
===Item 17 (GWB-GG - A-T) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
 
Change second sentence of "class" buller to:
 
The "type" of an attribute is a data type, whereas the "type" of an association is yet another RIM class.
 
===Item 21 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Remove bold
 
===Item 22 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Drop duplicate "the"
 
===Item 30 (GWB-GG - A-T) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Fix
 
===Item 140 (GWB-GG - A-Q) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
 
Change "XML communications" to "XML-encoded information"
 
===Item 141 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Set link to RCL document at  "../conformance/conformance.htm"
 
 
 
===Item 142 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Add "records"
 
===Item 143 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
change the to that
 
 
 
===Item 145 (GWB-GG - A-T) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Change
 
===Item 172 (GWB-GG - A-T) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with Mod"=====
 
IN REGARDS to 3.5 = I suggest renamibng "Section 6 - Accountability" to something like: "Section 6 - Special Topics on Implementation and Representation" and include in it:
 
*Context Conduction
 
*Accountability
 
*Update Mode
 
*Negation
 
*Record Characteristics, and
 
*Model References
 
 
 
from Rio Tuesday Q3 (see [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=MnM_Minutes_WGM_201005_Rio_de_Janeiro#Tuesday.2C_May_18.2C_2010_-_Q3 minutes]) 
 
 
 
As for the sentence referenced in this Line item: change to read:
 
"After protracted discussion within HL7, the prior mechanism was deprecated ....."
 
===Item 173 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with Mod"=====
 
Suggest a combination as:
 
 
 
'''conductible context''' — the conductible context of an Act is that portion of its context that may be conducted to descendant Acts; whether or not a given ActRelationship or Participation off the Act or its ancestors is part of the conductible context of the Act is determined by the value of the "conductible" property of the code asserted for the given element's typeCode.
 
 
 
===Item 225 (GWB-GG - A-T) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
 
Remove stutter from first sentence of 3.5
 
 
 
===Item 226 (GWB-GG - A-S) (moved/seconded) vote===
 
=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with Mod"=====
 
Suggest modify first sentence here to read:
 
 
 
"… each model must identify a single style of context conduction that will be used by all of its relationships by … "
 
 
 
 
==Adjournment==
 
==Adjournment==

Revision as of 17:46, 22 July 2010

M&M Ballot Reconciliation Conf. Call 4:00 PM Eastern (Date above)

[:Category:2010 MnM Minutes|Return to Mnm Minutes]]

Agenda - Core Principles Reconciliation

No quorum. Agenda re-posted for 7/22/2010

Adjournment