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May 27, 2015 Education Telecon

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  • Ken Chen (Co-Chair)

Quorum: No

Meeting Agenda/Minutes

Implementers Project Team Update

File:Implementers Project Team Update - V2.pptx

  • presented by Austin Kreisler
  • overview of the Board Project and how Education fits into this
  • one of the components is a Certification Program
  • Project Team would like to have someone from Education WG to become part of the team
    • commitment - team meets Monday afternoon for 1 hour every 2 weeks
  • Concerns raised from Education WG - there is definitely interest in a Certification Program, but doesn't have the bandwidth to move forward with the development
  • need to have commitment from HQ to move forward with this work
  • can not assume that this can move forward on the backs of volunteers
  • Ginny and Sharon will participate
Action:  Education WG will identify an individual to join Project Team - next meeting March 23 at 5pm Eastern
Action:  Austin to forward meeting information and slide deck


  • SAIF Webinar
    • will be recorded at the WGM
    • Feb 5, 2014: Ron's day job interfered with his available time to record. He is looking to reschedule but no word yet.
    • May 21, 2014: Ron still has not had the time to engage the SAIF Webinar
    • June 4: No updates since last conference call, Melva will continue to follow up
    • October 1, 2014: No update
    • February 18, 2015: No update
  • Patrick: We don't want to lose the knowledge for SAIF since it an important part of the standard
Action: Melva follow up with Lorraine again about SAIF Webinar - email sent November 10 - Will be reviewed on ARB next week

Tutorial Planning

  • Core tutorials on HL7 Standards, and have specialized tutorials alternated between WGM
  • Start with the January WGM tutorials
  • Rene Spronk has some draft stats on Education events that will be discussed in Chicago
  • Continue discussion of stats that would be useful
    • Education Offering Dashboard
      • This was an action item allocated to me during the WGM in Chicago. The usefulness of the various metrics probably merits additional discussion. Once there is agreement on a 'starter set of metrics' we'll have to create a mechanism to actually get hold of them.
    • Rene has created the statistics wiki page.
    • Number that Rene has on the wiki is not consistent to the actual numbers
  • Focus on HL7 HQ stats first and quality measures.
  • Location included in the statistic as may impact attendance/participation
  • February 18, 2015: No update
  • March 18, 2015: No update
Action: Education WG Members to review Wiki page for next teleconference
Action: Education WG Members are asked to send suggestions for other stats or types of stat to capture
Action:  Melva to review existing stats and compare to spreadsheet

Discussion of Certification Exams and Ed Summits

  • v2 Workshop Project
    • Ken and Diego have been working on the update to the PSS
    • Diego will follow what Virginia has been doing at Columbia
    • Diego will have a proposal on the next teleconference
    • Damien still interested in working with project
    • Virginia indicated interest also
    • March 18, 2015: No activity. Ken to provide new target dates for the next Education call
Action: Ken to provide an update on the PSS as soon as possible

Updates to the Certification exams

  • Sharon has analyzed the certifications and will need to possibly revise the questions.
    • Sharon would like to create a taskforce to review the questions on the exams.
      • Qualifications needed to be on the taskforce:
        • The group will be comprised of volunteers from the tutorial speaker pool to review the certification exam
        • Must have attended/audit the actual tutorial
        • Must be approved by the Education Committee
    • Sharon is working on an outline for a plan and guidelines for updates to existing and also for developing FHIR into a Certification Exam
    • Will bring back more information after meeting with Melva, Sharon and Mary Ann in August
    • Discussion of planning item back writing session during January 2015 WGM
      • Difficult to pull in the resourses (SME) to find time to collaborate and focus on questions during WGM.
  • Sharon Provided updates on v2 and cda exams
    • Sharon has all she needs for V2
    • For CDA waiting for a response
    • By the end of February to mid march Sharon will have the updated exam
    • Rene – IHE has new exam on the international level
    • Virginia suggested that we should know what IHE is doing
    • Melva asked Sharon if she had a contact with IHE- She did not
    • Rene had information on IHE and will send information
  • March 18, 2015 - CDA beta version - Sharon to check with Calvin on the status; V2 updates are complete

HL7 V2 Exam Updates

  • PSS will need to update the course
    • March 18, 2015 - no update
Action:Patrick will create a PSS for the updates to the V2 exams

MLM Certification

  • Suggestion from Virginia for a certification test for "Medical Logic Modules"====
    • Its very stable, self-contained, and people are hired as MLM developers. Several large EHR vendors use MLM as the way of programming custom CDS into their systems. We use it at NYP. A certification in this might look good on a resume
    • Discussion: need more details and consider how it fits with Arden Syntax WG
  • Virginia will reach out to Arden Syntax to see if they can join call in 2 weeks
Action: Ginny will share Arden Syntax WGM minutes
Action:  Include on agenda for Paris WGM - Monday Q3,4 or Thursday Q1
Action: Ginny will reach out to the Arden Syntax WG Chair to collaborate with this certification test.
Action: Ginny will try to invite them to the call.

Learning Partners Proposal

  • The motion from the Education WG to the Executive Committee RE Learning Partners Program failed. Most EC members found several issues with the proposal. They suggested that if the committee wishes to bring it back that the advantages to HL7 must be more clearly identified.
  • Will be on the agenda for WGM - Thursday Q2

Student Internship Project (Tom Maroon)

  • Tom reached out to see if Education would pilot the project - Melva had a discussion that Education isn't in a position to pilot as we don't work in this space as a group
    • Melva invited Tom to join an Education call
    • Leave this on the agenda for next call


Next meeting

  • Next meeting - Monday Q3 - May 11, 2015 in Paris