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[https://fccdl.in/kMPknMwAeV https://fccdl.in/kMPknMwAeV Meeting recording (temporary)]
  
eLTSS update
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‘’’eLTSS update’’’
  
 
* latest draft for volume 2 and volume 3
 
* latest draft for volume 2 and volume 3
 
* homework to look at, respond to Irina will discuss in detail next week
 
* homework to look at, respond to Irina will discuss in detail next week
  
* Suzanne to forward to the next group up for (May deadline missed); to cc Becky, Irina/co-chairs on confirmation that project can go forward with current project deadlines
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* Suzanne to forward to the next group up for (May deadline missed); to cc Becky, Irina/co-chairs on confirmation that project can go forward with current project deadlines
  
  
FHIR Security Project - John Moehrke
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‘’’FHIR Security Project’’’ - John Moehrke
 
* not updated in about a month and a half
 
* not updated in about a month and a half
  
 
Johnathan
 
Johnathan
  
Activiely walking through the ONC API paper - additional improvements to the spec  
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Actively walking through the ONC API paper - additional improvements to the spec  
* four that will probably worked through today; what do those four mean (to asssit editor)
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* four that will probably work through today; what do those four mean (to assist editor)
 
* quality check
 
* quality check
 
* moving slowly
 
* moving slowly
  
GDPR subworkgrou
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GDPR supergroup
 
Monday 7am PT
 
Monday 7am PT
 
* moving slowly relative to GPR priority
 
* moving slowly relative to GPR priority
* getting group beyond strming stage
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* getting group beyond storming stage
* =conflucnece tooling is getting in the way for progress
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* =confluence tooling is getting in the way for progress
* writing paper that expresses essentially that we have baked into FHIR a signtificatn S&P interoperability cabalities that emmet beyond.  there are a few obscure gap that have been identified that we might be able to further deliveping with stakehold interest
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* writing paper that expresses essentially that we have baked into FHIR a significant S&P interoperability capability that emit beyond.  there are a few obscure gaps that have been identified that we might be able to further develop with stakeholder interest
* kicked off at Cologne meeting - iformal project at this time.  
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* kicked off at Cologne meeting - informal project at this time.  
  
 
FHIR CP
 
FHIR CP
 
* still looking to see if we can get output from ONC work for patient choice
 
* still looking to see if we can get output from ONC work for patient choice
** mapping has been stalled due to mission reviews
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** mapping stalled due to mission reviews
 
* looks like CCDA on FHIR is linked to the contract on FHIR resource; we'd like to move over... as this is not the official position on consent (?)
 
* looks like CCDA on FHIR is linked to the contract on FHIR resource; we'd like to move over... as this is not the official position on consent (?)
* consent on FHIR is not owned by 'any one' WG - we're trying to get it moved over to CBCP sothat we can own it and resolve the disparity between the two systems
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* consent on FHIR is not owned by 'any one' WG - we're trying to get it moved over to CBCP so that we can own it and resolve the disparity between the two systems
 
* not a lot of CPs that require action at this time.
 
* not a lot of CPs that require action at this time.
 
* contract resource in a fairly good state, need to look at other (privacy) through the other use
 
* contract resource in a fairly good state, need to look at other (privacy) through the other use
** treatment, adv directives, reseache
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** treatment, adv directives, research
** lots of work done on pt choice, andn…..
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** lots of work done on pt choice, and…. (other named projects)
** start mappng against consent resource from dtat recied
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** start mapping against consent resource from data received
* not a lot of forward motion but looking ofrared to great things
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* not a lot of forward motion but looking ahead to great things
  
 
Jim - Piper Ranallo
 
Jim - Piper Ranallo
 
* clarification requested on latest  
 
* clarification requested on latest  
* asked question of Jim/Ioana on e-mail, may not know enough CCD specifications to  
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* asked question of Jim/Ioana on e-mail, may not know enough CCD specifications to  
* there is a group SNOMED - mental health clinical group )?) want ot update content in snomed--how do we approach priorities
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* there is a group SNOMED - mental health clinical group)?) want to update content in snomed--how do we approach priorities
** discussion: important for us to know--what kind of findings are clinicials colelctiong for clinical care
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** discussion: important for us to know--what kind of findings are clinicians collecting for clinical care
** we have a dta sets that contain types and section heading for mH notes
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** we have a data sets that contain types and section heading for MH notes
** we thought we would pull these heading for those dta types catues
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** we thought we would pull these heading for those data types captures
** its important that this work happens in collaboration with CCCDA
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** it is important that this work happens in collaboration with CCDA
*** thre is nothing happing with CCDA and BH note is the template are already set... no further work was to be happening (?) is this correct
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*** there is nothing happing with CCDA and BH note is the template set... no further work was to be happening (?) is this correct
*** per Piper resonse to person raised … what sections are defined for CCDA is that there are no sections beyond the standard history of present illess, social history... it would not get any more granulari than tha
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*** per Piper response to person raised … what sections are defined for CCDA is that there are no sections beyond the standard history of present illness, social history... it would not get any more granular than that
*** that granularity includes ICD10, snomed… that level of detail can certainly be added
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*** that granularity includes ICD10, SNOMED… that level of detail can certainly be added
* overview: the CCDA - consl
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* overview: the CCDA  
** there is an IG, with specific spectionsin the operative note, the BH note does not have any specific content section befont clinical note... is that correct?  content would be coded with snomed/loic… so content would be limited to those codes
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** there is an IG, with specific sectioning the operative note, the BH note does not have any specific content section in front clinical note... is that correct?  content would be coded with SNOMED/LOINC… so content would be limited to those codes
** there is nothing in the CCD in note/note types... a generalized note section in CCD (there is no such thing as a BH CCD) =CCd can be used for all areas of clinical care.  there is one free text section, it is not specific to surger or BH or whatever
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** there is nothing in the CCD in note/note types... a generalized note section in CCD (there is no such thing as a BH CCD) =CCD
* the diagnosis, assessment,... usingthe standardcoding schemes whether they include BH items or not, they are all there.  The entire DSM5 is encoded , snomed is avaialbe, so that the question that you're delaing with .
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* the diagnosis, assessment... using the standard coding schemes whether they include BH items or not, they are all there.  The entire DSM5 is encoded, SNOMED is available, so that the question that you are dealing with.
** does the snomed code need to be proliferated in some way--if that's the cse then that's a problem youwould deal with snomed
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** does the snomed code need to be proliferated in some way--if that's the case then that's a problem you would deal with snomed
  
document/section level templates... ?
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document/section level templates...?
there are templates, but they are not system specific... they are specici to record bP then they are expecting xxxxx-xx digits
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there are templates, but they are not system specific... they are specific to record BP then they are expecting xxxxx-xx digits
  
the person who raised this question, did work onteh oreative notes... it looks like there is a diagontic note, discharge note, etc... ([jim: these are different flavors of the CCD--used for different kidns of things, not specific to a specific body system]
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the person who raised this question, did work on the operative notes... it looks like there is a diagnostic note, discharge note, etc... ([Jim: these are different flavors of the CCD--used for different kinds of things, not specific to a specific body system]
  
understood; if a discharge summary / procedure summary /  
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understood; if a discharge summary / procedure summary / use those templates and detail out the MH/BH items
I got a feeling they created more granuals sections...  
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I got a feeling they created more granular sections...  
 
* who deals with CCDA?  which working group - structured docs
 
* who deals with CCDA?  which working group - structured docs
 
** Piper will reach out to Structured docs with questions (0002)
 
** Piper will reach out to Structured docs with questions (0002)
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* we would need to sponsor the project, but work in conjunctions with Structured docs
 
* we would need to sponsor the project, but work in conjunctions with Structured docs
 
** maybe an update to IG to add MH/BH items rather than an entirely new project
 
** maybe an update to IG to add MH/BH items rather than an entirely new project
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Meeting adjorned at 0934 Arizona Time
 
Meeting adjorned at 0934 Arizona Time

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Community-Based Care and Privacy (CBCP) Working Group Meeting

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Attendees

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Member Name x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name
. Johnathan ColemanCBCP Co-Chair x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCP Co-Chair x Jim Kretz CBCP Co-Chair x David Pyke CBCP Co-Chair
x Kathleen Connor Security Co-Chair x Mike Davis . John Moehrke Security Co-Chair x Diana Proud-Madruga
. Chris Shawn . Neelima Chennamaraja x Joe Lamy . Greg Linden
x Irina Connelly . Saurav Chowdhury x Dave Silver x Francisco Jauregui
. Irina Connelly . Amber Patel x Becky Angeles . Jennifer Brush
. Mohammad Jafari . Ali Khan . Ken Salyards . Ken Sinn
. David Staggs x Mark Meadows . Ioana Singureanu . Beth Pumo


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Agenda

  1. Roll Call, Agenda Review
  2. Meeting Minutes approval: (still in process)
  3. eLTSS Update - Irina / Becky
  4. FHIR Security Project Update - Johnathan / John Moehrke


Meeting Minutes DRAFT https://fccdl.in/kMPknMwAeV Meeting recording (temporary)

‘’’eLTSS update’’’

  • latest draft for volume 2 and volume 3
  • homework to look at, respond to Irina will discuss in detail next week
  • Suzanne to forward to the next group up for (May deadline missed); to cc Becky, Irina/co-chairs on confirmation that project can go forward with current project deadlines


‘’’FHIR Security Project’’’ - John Moehrke

  • not updated in about a month and a half

Johnathan

Actively walking through the ONC API paper - additional improvements to the spec

  • four that will probably work through today; what do those four mean (to assist editor)
  • quality check
  • moving slowly

GDPR supergroup Monday 7am PT

  • moving slowly relative to GPR priority
  • getting group beyond storming stage
  • =confluence tooling is getting in the way for progress
  • writing paper that expresses essentially that we have baked into FHIR a significant S&P interoperability capability that emit beyond. there are a few obscure gaps that have been identified that we might be able to further develop with stakeholder interest
  • kicked off at Cologne meeting - informal project at this time.

FHIR CP

  • still looking to see if we can get output from ONC work for patient choice
    • mapping stalled due to mission reviews
  • looks like CCDA on FHIR is linked to the contract on FHIR resource; we'd like to move over... as this is not the official position on consent (?)
  • consent on FHIR is not owned by 'any one' WG - we're trying to get it moved over to CBCP so that we can own it and resolve the disparity between the two systems
  • not a lot of CPs that require action at this time.
  • contract resource in a fairly good state, need to look at other (privacy) through the other use
    • treatment, adv directives, research
    • lots of work done on pt choice, and…. (other named projects)
    • start mapping against consent resource from data received
  • not a lot of forward motion but looking ahead to great things

Jim - Piper Ranallo

  • clarification requested on latest
  • asked question of Jim/Ioana on e-mail, may not know enough CCD specifications to
  • there is a group SNOMED - mental health clinical group)?) want to update content in snomed--how do we approach priorities
    • discussion: important for us to know--what kind of findings are clinicians collecting for clinical care
    • we have a data sets that contain types and section heading for MH notes
    • we thought we would pull these heading for those data types captures
    • it is important that this work happens in collaboration with CCDA
      • there is nothing happing with CCDA and BH note is the template set... no further work was to be happening (?) is this correct
      • per Piper response to person raised … what sections are defined for CCDA is that there are no sections beyond the standard history of present illness, social history... it would not get any more granular than that
      • that granularity includes ICD10, SNOMED… that level of detail can certainly be added
  • overview: the CCDA
    • there is an IG, with specific sectioning the operative note, the BH note does not have any specific content section in front clinical note... is that correct? content would be coded with SNOMED/LOINC… so content would be limited to those codes
    • there is nothing in the CCD in note/note types... a generalized note section in CCD (there is no such thing as a BH CCD) =CCD
  • the diagnosis, assessment... using the standard coding schemes whether they include BH items or not, they are all there. The entire DSM5 is encoded, SNOMED is available, so that the question that you are dealing with.
    • does the snomed code need to be proliferated in some way--if that's the case then that's a problem you would deal with snomed

document/section level templates...? there are templates, but they are not system specific... they are specific to record BP then they are expecting xxxxx-xx digits

the person who raised this question, did work on the operative notes... it looks like there is a diagnostic note, discharge note, etc... ([Jim: these are different flavors of the CCD--used for different kinds of things, not specific to a specific body system]

understood; if a discharge summary / procedure summary / use those templates and detail out the MH/BH items I got a feeling they created more granular sections...

  • who deals with CCDA? which working group - structured docs
    • Piper will reach out to Structured docs with questions (0002)
  • we would need to sponsor the project, but work in conjunctions with Structured docs
    • maybe an update to IG to add MH/BH items rather than an entirely new project


Meeting adjorned at 0934 Arizona Time