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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2016 ITS RDF Minutes 2016] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2017 ITS RDF Minutes 2017] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] |  
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[http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] |  
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[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] |
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[http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues W3C Issues List] |
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[https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues Github Issues List] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements Requirements] |
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[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
== Agenda for 25-Nov-2014 ==
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
See also [[ITS_ConCall_Agenda | ITS Work Group Agenda]]
 
  
'''The bulk of this teleconference will be devoted to a comparison of FHIR ontology approaches, by Eric Prud'hommeaux and Tony Mallia.'''
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See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
  
#Role call and agenda
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==TENTATIVE: Thursday Jun 4, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone - (May 28 call is canceled)==
#Approve Minutes of previous meeting
 
## [[ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20141118|November 18]]
 
## Minutes location -- [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2014 now in HL7 wiki]
 
# Logistics
 
## Wiki -- HL7? http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_ConCall_Agenda
 
## Issue tracking -- Trying W3C [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/ Tracker] and [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc TrackBot], which are integrated with W3C IRC that we use during our teleconferences.
 
### Configuration needed?  Eric, do you know?
 
# Orphaned action items
 
## [DONE] ACTION: David to create a wiki page for backlog [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action03]
 
### http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Topics_Backlog
 
# Work Projects -- '''Quick status review of each project, to leave max time for FHIR ontology review'''
 
## FHIR ontology -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item06 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Claude Nanjo, Tony Mallia, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Marc Twagirumukiza, Hans Cools
 
### [DONE] ACTION: Tony and Eric to work with each other and Claude to prepare comparison of FHIR ontology approaches [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
#### Eric and Tony will compare and contrast their FHIR ontology approaches as soon as we have finished a quick status review of all projects.
 
## ICD-11 and SNOMED -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item04 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Tony Mallia, Daniel Karlsson, Hans Cools
 
### ACTION: Tony to find out more details about how iCat handles ICD-11 ont and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
 
## Use Cases -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item10 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Guoqian Jiang, others?
 
### [https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases COI Use cases on W3C wiki]
 
### Goals of use cases
 
#### Drive and unify diverse efforts, e.g., FHIR ontology
 
### Kinds of use cases desired
 
#### Simple enough for use in slide presentations
 
#### Realistic enough to be convincing
 
### Use case ideas
 
#### Migration of CCDA to FHIR (EricP)
 
#### Utility on FHIR RDF that would motivate mapping of FHIR XML to FHIR RDF (EricP)
 
### Wiki page
 
### Next steps?
 
## PhUSE-FDA project (formerly CDISC2RDF) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item11 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Kerstin_Forsberg, Ingeborg, Tim Williams, (and Charlie Mead?)
 
### ACTION: Kerstin and Ingeborg to prepare a status and future state ideas for PhUSE-FDA work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action05]
 
## C-CDA RDF representations -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item12 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Eric Prud'hommeaux, Joshua Phillips
 
### ACTION: Eric to establish/make a wiki page for C-CDA RDF representations work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action06]
 
### ACTION: Eric and Joshua to report on C-CDA RDF representations work plan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action07]
 
## High-level concept mapping to RDF (AR typeCodes, etc.) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item13 Discussion]
 
### Champions: Tony Mallia, Rob Hausam
 
### ACTION: Tony and Rob to report their plan on High-level concept mapping to RDF work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action08]
 
### ACTION: Tony and all to decide on a wiki for Term Info work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action09]
 
## '''Comparison of FHIR ontology approaches''', by Eric Prud'hommeaux and Tony Mallia.  The majority of the teleconference will be devoted to this topic, to review, compare and contrast Eric and Tony's approaches.  '''For screen sharing,''' we will try using https://talky.io/ .  See details below.
 
## Other work proposed work items?
 
# Other agenda?
 
#Adjourn
 
  
== Teleconference Details ==
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[http://dbooth.org/2017/fhir-rdf-invite.ics Download calendar invite]
To join the screen sharing session, '''[https://talky.io/help/screensharing which might require the Chrome browser:]'''
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* Browse to https://talky.io/hcls
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'''COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ W3C HCLS] and HL7 ITS email lists.'''
* When prompted, '''disable sharing of both your video camera and your audio microphone''', and then continue to join the video chat.
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<pre>
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Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
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'''NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees.  Please test Google Hangout in advance!'''
Zakim (W3C teleconference bridge).
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Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
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*Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
VoIP address: sip:zakim@voip.w3.org  
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**[https://support.google.com/chat/answer/161993?hl=en Installing the Google Hangout]
Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS")
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**[[HowToSetUpGoogleHangoutOnMac | How to set up Google Hangout on Mac]]
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS
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</pre>
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Agenda:
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#Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions.  See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
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Old future agenda:
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
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Future agenda:
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
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#OWL for codesystems
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#OWL header in ttl file
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Feb 4, 2020
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#Recent meetings
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200102 Jan 02 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200109 Jan 09]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200116 Jan 16]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200123 Jan 23 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200130 Jan 30 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
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<blockquote>
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
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IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
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</blockquote>
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See also:
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
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==Work Projects==
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]

Latest revision as of 07:52, 28 May 2020

Return to ITS Main Page | ITS RDF Minutes 2016 | ITS RDF Minutes 2017 | All ITS RDF Pages | ITS Email Archives | W3C HCLS Email Archives | W3C Issues List | Github Issues List | Requirements | W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability

Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

TENTATIVE: Thursday Jun 4, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone - (May 28 call is canceled)

Download calendar invite

COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the W3C HCLS and HL7 ITS email lists.


NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
  2. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  3. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Feb 4, 2020

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Jan 02 - canceled
    2. Jan 09
    3. Jan 16
    4. Jan 23 - canceled
    5. Jan 30 - canceled
    6. Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)
    7. Feb 13 - canceled
    8. Feb 20
    9. Feb 27
    10. Mar 05

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page