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[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
  
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
  
== Agenda for 30-Jun-2015 ==
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==Thursday Apr 9, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone - (Apr 2 call is canceled)==
# Role call and agenda
 
# Moderation and use of a SPEAKER QUEUE
 
# [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_Group_Scribe_List Pick a scribe]
 
# Approve Minutes of previous meeting
 
## [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150609 June 9] and [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150616 June 16] [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150623 June 23]
 
# Review of Action Items
 
## ACTION: Claude to follow up with Jean-Francoise about getting Vidal present [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
## ACTION: Eric to write up his and Josh's proposal for a registry of clinical terminologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-hcls-minutes.html#action03]
 
## ACTION: JohnMattison to provide example CCDA for trying with ShEx [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/23-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
# [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2015Jun/0027.html HL7 Project Scope Statement (PSS) for computable semantic links from FHIR to RIM]
 
## Update: Still being discussed in ArB, once it passes there an updated version will be distributed
 
# FHIR RDF and Validation/Translation Task Force (Wednesdays 11am Boston timezone)
 
## '''NEW TELECONFERENCE DETAILS:''' Webex for teleconference: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5cd1bd8bb36825b9c4b369fd664bbb62 dial-up: +1-617-324-0000 Access code: 645 777 110 Meeting password: 4257
 
## Notes from [http://www.w3.org/2015/06/03-hcls-minutes.html June 3 teleconference] and [http://www.w3.org/2015/06/10-hcls-minutes.html June 10 teleconference] and [http://www.w3.org/2015/06/17-hcls-minutes.html June 17] and [http://www.w3.org/2015/06/24-hcls-minutes.html June 24]
 
## Side-by-side example of two FHIR RDF approaches - references (Tony Mallia)<br>http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
 
### ISSUE-8 - If we treat observation.code as an instance of a class, should that class represent the disease itself or a *description* of the disease?
 
#### Kerstin suggests: https://code.google.com/p/ogms/
 
## CQL (Claude)
 
## FHIR element ordering.  Wednesday TF call agreed on option 1.  See [https://goo.gl/DKcm0U three options]
 
# [http://ncorwiki.buffalo.edu/index.php/CTS_Ontology_Workshop_2015 CTS Ontology Workshop,] Sept 23-25, Charleston SC
 
## Need to get FHIR ontology and RDF examples checked into github
 
# Continuing on FHIR RDF:
 
## FHIR element ordering.  The Wednesday Task Force agreed to option 1 in [https://goo.gl/DKcm0U Comparison of approaches in FHIR RDF]
 
## FHIR RDF & ontology deliverables:
 
### FHIR RDF: HTML page (already started) explaining FHIR RDF serialization (equivalent to existing FHIR XML and JSON pages)
 
### FHIR ontology explanation page, explaining how FHIR structure definitions and other conformance resource can be expressed using OWL
 
### Modify the supported reference implementations to consume/produce RDF, just as for XML and JSON.
 
### Modify the FHIR spec build process, so when it produces JSON versions of everything and tests roundtripping, it also produces RDF versions of everything and tests roundtripping for RDF.
 
### Downloadable FHIR ontology (generated by the FHIR spec build process?)
 
### ShEx implementation of FHIR XML<->RDF round tripping, for use as a reference implementation for the RDF reference implementations
 
## Side-by-side example of two FHIR RDF approaches (Tony Mallia)<br>http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
 
# Upcoming:
 
## Discuss [http://YosemiteProject.org/ Yosemite Project].  Add who is doing what?
 
  
== Teleconference Details ==
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Agenda:
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions.  See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
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Old future agenda:
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
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Future agenda:
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
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#OWL for codesystems
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#OWL header in ttl file
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Feb 4, 2020
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#Recent meetings
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200102 Jan 02 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200109 Jan 09]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200116 Jan 16]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200123 Jan 23 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200130 Jan 30 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
 
<blockquote>
 
<blockquote>
Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
Webex: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5cd1bd8bb36825b9c4b369fd664bbb62 <br>
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
: Teleconference: +1-617-324-0000 Access code: 645 777 110 <br>
 
: Meeting password: 4257 ("HCLS") <br>
 
 
IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
 
IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
 
</blockquote>
 
</blockquote>
  
 
See also:
 
See also:
* [http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
 
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
 
  
== Work Projects ==
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
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==Work Projects==
  
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]

Latest revision as of 22:50, 31 March 2020

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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

Thursday Apr 9, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone - (Apr 2 call is canceled)

Download calendar invite

NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  2. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Feb 4, 2020

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Jan 02 - canceled
    2. Jan 09
    3. Jan 16
    4. Jan 23 - canceled
    5. Jan 30 - canceled
    6. Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)
    7. Feb 13 - canceled
    8. Feb 20
    9. Feb 27
    10. Mar 05

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page