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[[Category:ITS RDF]]
 
[[Category:ITS RDF]]
:[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2014 ITS RDF Minutes 2014] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] | [http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] | [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] | [http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues Issues List] |
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[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2016 ITS RDF Minutes 2016] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2017 ITS RDF Minutes 2017] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] |  
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[http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] |  
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[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] |  
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[http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues W3C Issues List] |
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[https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues Github Issues List] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements Requirements] |
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
  
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
  
== Agenda for San Antonio Face-to-Face Meetings ==
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==NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone==
'''No weekly teleconference on Tue 20-Jan-2015 due to San Antonio F2F meeting.'''
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[http://dbooth.org/2017/fhir-rdf-invite.ics Download calendar invite]
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'''COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ W3C HCLS] and HL7 ITS email lists.'''
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'''NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees.  Please test Google Hangout in advance!'''
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*Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
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**[https://support.google.com/chat/answer/161993?hl=en Installing the Google Hangout]
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**[[HowToSetUpGoogleHangoutOnMac | How to set up Google Hangout on Mac]]
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Agenda:
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#Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions.  See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
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Old future agenda:
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
  
1. Meeting with ITS ('''9-10:30am Mon Jan 19,''' San Antonio)
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Future agenda:
* '''To join the meeting by teleconferece, call +1 617 761 6200, Code 5741.'''
 
* TODO: Scribe volunteer needed!
 
* (David) Briefly review goals of RDF subgroup
 
* (Claude) Show example of using RDF to merge and federate FHIR data
 
* (David) FHIR RDF / Ontology status
 
* (David) Planning the road ahead
 
** What should be our focus?  FHIR first, then what?
 
** How can we operate better?  How can we be most effective?  How can we best support other groups wanting to use RDF?
 
** E.g., developing RDF conventions?  Uusing RDF and OWL instead of UML?  How to express ordering in RDF?
 
  
2. Informal FHIR RDF hackathons
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
See [https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/S7B8HTY participation survey] and [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2015Jan/att-0002/people-availability.xls spreadsheet of people's availability].
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
Outside of our meeting with ITS, those who are available will meet for intensive FHIR RDF/ontology hacking.
 
* '''Sun 7:00pm, Hyatt Main Lobby''' - (David) Sync up and strategize
 
* '''Mon 11am-12pm - location TBD''' - (David) FHIR modifier extensions and RDF monotonicity
 
* '''Tue afternoon? - location TBD''' - (David) FHIR in JSON-LD
 
* '''Tue evening?''' - (David) [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements FHIR ontology requirements?]
 
* '''TBD''' - (Tony, remotely) Terminology binding in FHIR RDF
 
* '''TBD''' - (Claude) TripleStore-Backed FHIR Server
 
* ''(Add other FHIR RDF hackathon sessions here)''
 
  
== Teleconference Details (EXCEPT FOR SAN ANTONIO MEETING) ==
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
Zakim (W3C teleconference bridge).
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#OWL for codesystems
Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
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#OWL header in ttl file
VoIP address: sip:zakim@voip.w3.org  
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS")
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
  
'''Screen sharing is courtesy of Claude Nanjo:'''
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
<pre>
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021
  https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/157514853
 
  Access Code: 157-514-853
 
</pre>
 
  
See also:
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#Recent meetings
* [http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)]
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200922 Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210126 Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210525 May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
  
== Upcoming ==
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
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<blockquote>
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
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IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
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</blockquote>
  
* Discuss use cases (when Guoqian is available)
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See also:
* [http://www.hl7.org/events/wgm012015/ San Antonio F2F meeting].  See draft agenda below.
 
  
== Draft agenda for next teleconference ==
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
# Role call and agenda
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
# Approve Minutes of previous meeting: [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150113 Jan 13]
 
# Review of Action Items
 
## ACTION: Claude to work up use case example of RDF benefit to present in San Antonio [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/06-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
## ACTION: JohnMattison to provide example CCDA for trying with ShEx [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/23-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
# FHIR Ontology Requirements?
 
# Other agenda?
 
# Adjourn
 
  
== Work Projects ==
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==Work Projects==
  
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]

Latest revision as of 23:35, 15 July 2021

This page is OBSOLETE. RDF Work has moved Here

Return to ITS Main Page | ITS RDF Minutes 2016 | ITS RDF Minutes 2017 | All ITS RDF Pages | ITS Email Archives | W3C HCLS Email Archives | W3C Issues List | Github Issues List | Requirements | W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability

Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone

Download calendar invite

COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the W3C HCLS and HL7 ITS email lists.


NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
  2. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  3. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)
    2. Feb 13 - canceled
    3. Feb 20
    4. Feb 27
    5. Mar 05
    6. Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    7. Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    8. May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page