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[[Category:ITS RDF]]
:[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2014 ITS RDF Minutes 2014] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] | [http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] | [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] | [http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues Issues List] |
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[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2016 ITS RDF Minutes 2016] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2017 ITS RDF Minutes 2017] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] |  
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[http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] |  
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[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] |  
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[http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues W3C Issues List] |
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[https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues Github Issues List] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements Requirements] |
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
  
== DRAFT Agenda for 23-Dec-2014 ==
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See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
See also [[ITS_ConCall_Agenda | ITS Work Group Agenda]]
 
  
This teleconference will to focus on FHIR ontology work.
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==NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone==
  
# Role call and agenda
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[http://dbooth.org/2017/fhir-rdf-invite.ics Download calendar invite]
# Approve Minutes of previous meeting
 
## [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20141216 Dec 16]
 
# Review of Action Items
 
# '''[http://www.w3.org/2013/C-CDA/IJ.xml C-CDA as ORIM RDF (Eric Prud'hommeaux)]'''
 
# '''[https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/C-CDA Translating ORIM RDF to FHIR RDF using ShEx (Eric Prud'hommeaux)]'''
 
# '''Discuss [[FHIR Ontology Requirements]]
 
# Other agenda?
 
# Adjourn
 
  
== Teleconference Details ==
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'''COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ W3C HCLS] and HL7 ITS email lists.'''
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Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
 
Zakim (W3C teleconference bridge).
 
Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
 
VoIP address: sip:zakim@voip.w3.org  
 
Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS")
 
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS
 
</pre>
 
  
'''Screen sharing is courtesy of Claude Nanjo:'''
 
<pre>
 
  https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/157514853
 
  Access Code: 157-514-853
 
</pre>
 
  
See also:
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'''NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees.  Please test Google Hangout in advance!'''
* [http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
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* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
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*Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
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**[https://support.google.com/chat/answer/161993?hl=en Installing the Google Hangout]
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**[[HowToSetUpGoogleHangoutOnMac | How to set up Google Hangout on Mac]]
  
== Upcoming ==
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Agenda:
  
* Discuss use cases (when Guoqian is available)
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#Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
* '''Jan 6''' Frederik Malfait review of PhUSE work
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensionsSee: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
* Plan San Antonio F2F meetingIntensive FHIR ontology work? (Planning to attend: Claude, Paul, Cecil, Charlie, David, Rob, Brian. Anyone else?)
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
  
== Work Projects ==
 
  
=== '''FHIR ontology''' -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item06 Discussion] ===
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Old future agenda:
Champions: Claude Nanjo, Tony Mallia, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Marc Twagirumukiza, Hans Cools
 
* [[FHIR Ontology Requirements]]
 
* [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2014Dec/0074.html Use JSON-LD?]
 
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/FHIR#FHIR_as_RDF FHIR as RDF wiki page (Josh Mandel and Eric Prud'hommeaux)]
 
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/C-CDA Mapping C-CDA to FHIR RDF using ShEx (EricP)]
 
  
==== Next Steps ====
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
* Converge on unified FHIR ontology approach
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
* Agree on FHIR ontology requirements
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
  
=== ICD-11 and SNOMED -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item04 Discussion] ===
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
Champions: Tony Mallia, Daniel Karlsson, Hans Cools
 
* ACTION: Tony to find out more details about how iCat handles ICD-11 ont and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
 
  
==== Next Steps ====
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
  
=== Use Cases -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item10 Discussion] ===
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Future agenda:
Champions: Guoqian Jiang, others?
 
[https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases COI Use cases on W3C wiki]
 
* ACTION: Guoqian to figure out whether he can share URI conventions for ICD-11 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-hcls-minutes.html#action07]
 
  
Goals of use cases:
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
* Drive and unify diverse efforts, e.g., FHIR ontology
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
Kinds of use cases desired:
 
* Simple enough for use in slide presentations
 
* Realistic enough to be convincing
 
Use case ideas:
 
* Migration of CCDA to FHIR (EricP)
 
* Utility on FHIR RDF that would motivate mapping of FHIR XML to FHIR RDF (EricP)
 
  
==== Next Steps ====
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
* EricP will present C-CDA example on Dec 23.
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
* Waiting for Guoqian for broader discussion of use cases.
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
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#OWL for codesystems
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#OWL header in ttl file
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
  
=== PhUSE-FDA project (formerly CDISC2RDF) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item11 Discussion] ===
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
Champions: Kerstin_Forsberg, Ingeborg, Tim Williams, (and Charlie Mead?)
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021
ACTION: Kerstin and Ingeborg to prepare a status and future state ideas for PhUSE-FDA work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action05]
 
  
==== Next Steps ====
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#Recent meetings
* DBooth scheduled @@@@ to discuss PhUSE-FDA project on Jan 6 teleconference.
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200922 Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210126 Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210525 May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
  
=== C-CDA RDF representations -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item12 Discussion] ===
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
Champions: Eric Prud'hommeaux, Joshua Phillips
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<blockquote>
* ACTION: Eric to establish/make a wiki page for C-CDA RDF representations work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action06]
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
* ACTION: Eric and Joshua to report on C-CDA RDF representations work plan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action07] -- PENDING? (On Dec 16 call I thought Eric said this was done pending review, but I cannot seem to find it.)
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
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IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls <br>
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</blockquote>
  
==== Next Steps ====
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See also:
* EricP will present C-CDA example on Dec 23. 
 
* @@ TODO @@
 
  
=== High-level concept mapping to RDF (AR typeCodes, etc.) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item13 Discussion] ===
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
Champions: Tony Mallia, Rob Hausam
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=TermInfo_FHIR_Ontology_HL7_ITS_RDF_W3C_HCLS_COI Wiki page for term info work]
 
  
==== Next Steps ====
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==Work Projects==
* @@ TODO @@
 
  
=== Other proposed work items? ===
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]

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Return to ITS Main Page | ITS RDF Minutes 2016 | ITS RDF Minutes 2017 | All ITS RDF Pages | ITS Email Archives | W3C HCLS Email Archives | W3C Issues List | Github Issues List | Requirements | W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability

Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone

Download calendar invite

COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the W3C HCLS and HL7 ITS email lists.


NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
  2. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  3. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)
    2. Feb 13 - canceled
    3. Feb 20
    4. Feb 27
    5. Mar 05
    6. Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    7. Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    8. May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page