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[[Category:ITS RDF]]
 
[[Category:ITS RDF]]
:[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2014 ITS RDF Minutes 2014] | [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] | [http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] | [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] | [http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues Issues List] |
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[[ITS_WG|Return to ITS Main Page]] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2016 ITS RDF Minutes 2016] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF_Minutes_2017 ITS RDF Minutes 2017] |  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Category:ITS_RDF All ITS RDF Pages] |  
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[http://lists.hl7.org/read/?forum=its ITS Email Archives] |  
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[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/latest W3C HCLS Email Archives] |  
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[http://www.w3.org/2014/HCLS/track/issues W3C Issues List] |
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[https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues Github Issues List] |
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements Requirements] |
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
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==NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone==
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[http://dbooth.org/2017/fhir-rdf-invite.ics Download calendar invite]
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'''COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ W3C HCLS] and HL7 ITS email lists.'''
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'''NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees.  Please test Google Hangout in advance!'''
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*Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
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**[https://support.google.com/chat/answer/161993?hl=en Installing the Google Hangout]
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**[[HowToSetUpGoogleHangoutOnMac | How to set up Google Hangout on Mac]]
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Agenda:
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#Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions.  See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
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Old future agenda:
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
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Future agenda:
  
== DRAFT Agenda for 23-Dec-2014 ==
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
See also [[ITS_ConCall_Agenda | ITS Work Group Agenda]]
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  
'''This teleconference will continue with discussion of FHIR ontology requirments.'''
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
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#OWL for codesystems
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#OWL header in ttl file
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
  
# Role call and agenda
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
# Approve Minutes of previous meeting
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021
## [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20141216 Dec 16]
 
# Review of Action Items
 
# '''Discuss [[FHIR Ontology Requirements]]
 
# Other agenda?
 
# Adjourn
 
  
== Teleconference Details ==
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#Recent meetings
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)]
Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
Zakim (W3C teleconference bridge).
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA)
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
VoIP address: sip:zakim@voip.w3.org  
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS")
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200922 Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #HCLS
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210126 Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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##[https://wiki.hl7.org/ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20210525 May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
  
'''Screen sharing is courtesy of Claude Nanjo:'''
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
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  https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/157514853
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
  Access Code: 157-514-853
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
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IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
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</blockquote>
  
 
See also:
 
See also:
* [http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
 
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
 
  
== Upcoming ==
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
  
* Discuss use cases (when Guoqian is available)
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==Work Projects==
* '''Jan 6''' Frederik Malfait review of PhUSE work
 
* Plan San Antonio F2F meeting (Planning to attend: Claude, Paul, Cecil, Charlie, David, Rob, Brian.  Anyone else?)
 
  
== Work Projects ==
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]
# '''FHIR ontology''' -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item06 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Claude Nanjo, Tony Mallia, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Marc Twagirumukiza, Hans Cools
 
### '''Discuss [[FHIR Ontology Requirements]]
 
### [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2014Dec/0074.html Use JSON-LD?]
 
# ICD-11 and SNOMED -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item04 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Tony Mallia, Daniel Karlsson, Hans Cools
 
## ACTION: Tony to find out more details about how iCat handles ICD-11 ont and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
 
# Use Cases -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item10 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Guoqian Jiang, others?
 
## [https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases COI Use cases on W3C wiki]
 
## ACTION: Guoqian to figure out whether he can share URI conventions for ICD-11 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-hcls-minutes.html#action07]
 
## Goals of use cases
 
### Drive and unify diverse efforts, e.g., FHIR ontology
 
## Kinds of use cases desired
 
### Simple enough for use in slide presentations
 
### Realistic enough to be convincing
 
## Use case ideas
 
### Migration of CCDA to FHIR (EricP)
 
### Utility on FHIR RDF that would motivate mapping of FHIR XML to FHIR RDF (EricP)
 
## Wiki page
 
## Next steps?
 
# PhUSE-FDA project (formerly CDISC2RDF) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item11 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Kerstin_Forsberg, Ingeborg, Tim Williams, (and Charlie Mead?)
 
## ACTION: Kerstin and Ingeborg to prepare a status and future state ideas for PhUSE-FDA work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action05]
 
# C-CDA RDF representations -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item12 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Eric Prud'hommeaux, Joshua Phillips
 
## ACTION: Eric to establish/make a wiki page for C-CDA RDF representations work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action06]
 
## ACTION: Eric and Joshua to report on C-CDA RDF representations work plan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#action07] -- PENDING?  (On Dec 16 call I thought Eric said this was done pending review, but I cannot seem to find it.)
 
# High-level concept mapping to RDF (AR typeCodes, etc.) -- [http://www.w3.org/2014/11/18-hcls-minutes.html#item13 Discussion]
 
## Champions: Tony Mallia, Rob Hausam
 
## [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=TermInfo_FHIR_Ontology_HL7_ITS_RDF_W3C_HCLS_COI Wiki page for term info work]
 
# Other work proposed work items?
 

Latest revision as of 23:35, 15 July 2021

This page is OBSOLETE. RDF Work has moved Here

Return to ITS Main Page | ITS RDF Minutes 2016 | ITS RDF Minutes 2017 | All ITS RDF Pages | ITS Email Archives | W3C HCLS Email Archives | W3C Issues List | Github Issues List | Requirements | W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability

Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2021 - 11am Boston timezone

Download calendar invite

COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the W3C HCLS and HL7 ITS email lists.


NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
  2. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  3. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Jan 26, 2021

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Feb 04, 2020(Sydney, Australia)
    2. Feb 13 - canceled
    3. Feb 20
    4. Feb 27
    5. Mar 05
    6. Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    7. Jan 26, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)
    8. May 25, 2021 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page