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[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
 
[http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability W3C Clinical Observations Interoperability]
  
Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability RDF for Semantic Interoperability] and the [http://www.w3.org/blog/hcls/ W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group] on [http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability Clinical Observations Interoperability].
  
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
 
See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Work_Projects Work Projects]
  
== Agenda for 5-May-2015 ==
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==NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone==
# Role call and agenda
 
# Moderation and use of a SPEAKER QUEUE
 
# [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_Group_Scribe_List Pick a scribe]
 
# Approve Minutes of previous meetings
 
## [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20150428 Apr 28]
 
# Review of Action Items
 
## [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=6278&start=0 DONE] ACTION: dbooth to suggest to the FIHR group to make it explicit in the FHIR spec tha a profile URI *should* be dereferenceable to an authoritative definition of that profile [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/07-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
 
## ACTION: JohnMattison to provide example CCDA for trying with ShEx [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/23-hcls-minutes.html#action02]
 
# FHIR RDF and Validation/Translation Task Force (Wednesdays 11am Boston timezone, same teleconference details as below except for the day)
 
## Moderation and use of a SPEAKER QUEUE
 
## [http://www.w3.org/2015/04/29-hcls-minutes.html Notes from the most recent task force teleconference]
 
## blank nodes as CodeableConcept instances
 
## Side-by-side example of two FHIR RDF approaches - references (Tony Mallia)<br>http://wiki.hl7.org/images/1/19/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons_v2.pdf
 
### ISSUE-8 - If we treat observation.code as an instance of a class, should that class represent the disease itself or a *description* of the disease?
 
#### Kerstin suggests: https://code.google.com/p/ogms/
 
### ISSUE-9 - Does observation.code need to be a uri instead of a blank node, to work well with owl reasoners?
 
## FHIR element ordering.  Some possibilities:
 
### [http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_list rdf:List]
 
### [http://smiy.sourceforge.net/olo/spec/orderedlistontology.html Ordered List Ontology]
 
### [http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://purl.org/co/ Collections Ontology]
 
### [http://goo.gl/8PNuAG Simple List Conventions]
 
# Planning Upcoming HL7 Meeting - Paris May 10-15
 
## http://www.hl7.org/events/wgm052015/
 
## Chair: Rob Hausam (acting chair for ITS) with Claude Nanjo
 
## Will attend: Claude, Paul, Rob, EricP, Andy Stechin
 
## Will not attend: David, Marc, Tony
 
## ITS meeting slot for RDF group: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ITS+RDF+Meeting&year=&month=05&day=11&hour=15&min=30&sec=0&p1=195 Monday Q4 (3:30pm Paris time)]
 
# Side-by-side example of two FHIR RDF approaches (Tony Mallia)<br>http://wiki.hl7.org/images/1/19/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons_v2.pdf<br>OLD: http://wiki.hl7.org/images/2/25/FHIR_RDF_Sample_side_by_side_comparisons.pdf
 
# Continuing on FHIR RDF:
 
## FHIR element ordering.  Some possibilities:
 
### [http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_list rdf:List]
 
### [http://smiy.sourceforge.net/olo/spec/orderedlistontology.html Ordered List Ontology]
 
### [http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/owlapi/http://purl.org/co/ Collections Ontology]
 
### [http://goo.gl/8PNuAG Simple List Conventions]
 
## What URI to use for observation.code instance, or whether to use a blank node, which does not work well with owl reasoners.  Potential Options: 1. use blank nodes and let applications deal with the problem by minting skolem URIs or something else; 2. define a standard way to form a URI; 3. use a skolem URI using the well-known convention defined by RDF.  http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-concepts/#h3_section-skolemization
 
  
== Teleconference Details ==
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[http://dbooth.org/2017/fhir-rdf-invite.ics Download calendar invite]
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'''COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ W3C HCLS] and HL7 ITS email lists.'''
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'''NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees.  Please test Google Hangout in advance!'''
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*Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
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**[https://support.google.com/chat/answer/161993?hl=en Installing the Google Hangout]
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**[[HowToSetUpGoogleHangoutOnMac | How to set up Google Hangout on Mac]]
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Agenda:
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#Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
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#FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions.  See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
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#HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence
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Old future agenda:
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#FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
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#POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
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#POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
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#Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
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##Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
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##[https://json-ld.org/playground-dev/#startTab=tab-nquads&json-ld=%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22%40version%22%3A1.1%2C%22%40vocab%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F%22%2C%22coding%22%3A%7B%22%40context%22%3A%7B%22code%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fsomething-else.example.com%2Fcode%22%7D%7D%7D%2C%22resourceType%22%3A%22Observation%22%2C%22id%22%3A%22example%22%2C%22code%22%3A%7B%22coding%22%3A%5B%7B%22system%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Floinc.org%22%2C%22code%22%3A%2231419%22%2C%22display%22%3A%22Weight%20Measured%22%7D%5D%7D%7D Playground example]
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#Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)
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https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article
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#ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
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#Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
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#Prioritizing remaining TODO items
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##1. Common use cases
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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###See also:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
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###https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
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##2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
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###http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
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###ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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##4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
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###> http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
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##5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
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###http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
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##6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
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###https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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##7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
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#ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
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#Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
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#FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
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##https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
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##http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
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#HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)
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Future agenda:
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#FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
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##https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
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#Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
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#FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
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#FHIR JSON datatypes
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#OWL for codesystems
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#OWL header in ttl file
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#FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
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#Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
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#Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
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#ShExMap Q&A
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#SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
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##Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
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##Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
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##Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
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##Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
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#Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
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#Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
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#[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors FHIR RDF deliverables]
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===Approve minutes of recent meetings===
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Minutes have not been formally approved starting Sep 22, 2020
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#Recent meetings
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200204 Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200213 Feb 13 - canceled]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200220 Feb 20]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200227 Feb 27]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200305 Mar 05]
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##[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=ITS_RDF_Concall_Minutes_20200922 Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)]
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==11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details==
 
<blockquote>
 
<blockquote>
Tuesdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
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Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone <br>
Zakim (W3C teleconference bridge). <br>
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Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf <br>
Dial-In #: +1.617.761.6200 (Cambridge, MA) <br>
 
VoIP address: sip:zakim@voip.w3.org  <br>
 
Participant Access Code: 4257 ("HCLS") <br>
 
 
IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
 
IRC: [http://irc.w3.org/ irc.w3.org] port 6665 channel #hcls  <br>
</blockquote>
 
 
'''Screen sharing (when used) is courtesy of Claude Nanjo.  It is only used for screen sharing -- not for the teleconference bridge.  The W3C teleconference bridge (above) will still be used even when we are using GoToMeeting for screen sharing.  To join the screen sharing, browse to:'''
 
<blockquote>
 
  https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/157514853 <br>
 
  Access Code: 157-514-853
 
 
</blockquote>
 
</blockquote>
  
 
See also:
 
See also:
* [http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
 
* [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
 
  
== Upcoming ==
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*[http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim bot help]
# [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/rdf.html Github page on RDF]
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*[https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC IRC help]
# Discuss [http://YosemiteProject.org/ Yosemite Project].  Add who is doing what?
 
# Discuss use cases (when Guoqian is available)
 
# Valuesets in FHIR (Lloyd)
 
## See also [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:Terminology_binding_in_FHIR.pdf Tony Mallia's latest Terminology Binding draft]
 
  
== Work Projects ==
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==Work Projects==
  
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]
 
[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page]

Revision as of 17:59, 22 September 2020

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Weekly joint teleconference of the HL7 ITS subgroup on RDF for Semantic Interoperability and the W3C Healthcare and Life Sciences group on Clinical Observations Interoperability.

See also Work Projects

NEXT TELECONFERENCE: TBD, 2020 - 11am Boston timezone

Download calendar invite

COVID-19 activities have temporarily interrupted the FHIR RDF work, but we will be continuing with the FHIR RDF work ASAP, and will announce the next call on the W3C HCLS and HL7 ITS email lists.


NOTE: We will be using Google Hangout for remote attendees. Please test Google Hangout in advance!

Agenda:

  1. Alignment between FHIR RDF and CRF efforts? (João Moreira)
  2. FHIR/RDF R5 issues, including list ordering and FHIR extensions. See: https://github.com/fhircat/FHIRCat/labels/R5
  3. HL7 transitioning from MediaWiki to Confluence


Old future agenda:

  1. FHIR profiles and EXTENDS (EricP)
  2. POSTPONED: FHIR/RDF for personal health devices (Harold and Lusha)
  3. POSTPONED: fhir.schema.org? (Harold)
  4. Ontologies needed for FHIR HL7 terminologies (Harold)
    1. Issue: https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-syntax/issues/115
    2. Playground example
  5. Draft ShEx - IPSM comparison article (Pawel)

https://github.com/szmejap/ShEx-IPSM-Article

  1. ShEx validation error of FHIR extension
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=20342&start=0
  2. Draft paper on the comparison of ShExMap and IPSM techniques for translating FHIR/RDF from one RDF model to another
  3. Prioritizing remaining TODO items
    1. 1. Common use cases
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
      2. See also:
      3. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Ontology_Requirements#USE_CASES
      4. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Use_Cases
      5. https://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability#Use_Cases
    2. 2. Add Harold's webinar to the "Using FHIR/RDF" section
      1. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    3. 3. List non-monotonic FHIR features
      1. ttp://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
    4. 4. Resolve Joao's confusion about the two W3C specs, and decide what do do about them:
      1. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/ontology.html
      2. > http://w3c.github.io/hcls-fhir-rdf/spec/
    5. 5. We have a "Deliverables and Editors" list, which needs to be updated:
      1. http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#FHIR_RDF_and_Ontology
    6. 6. And we have a github issues list, which we also need to review and update:
      1. https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
    7. 7. Make a list of projects using or planning to use FHIR/RDF
  4. ShEx Profiles (Eric P)
  5. Common semantics across FHIR/RDF properties (João Moreira)
  6. FHIR Linked Data Module TODOs
    1. https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11451
    2. http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
  7. HTTP content negotiation for FHIR RDF and OWL (Harold Solbrig)

Future agenda:

  1. FHIR/RDF questions from João Moreira (but João will be out on Mar 20)
    1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2018Feb/0026.html
  1. Mapping OpenEHR ADL to RDF (POSTPONED: waiting for Claude to propose a date/time)
  2. FHIR Metadata Vocabulary - fhir.ttl
  3. FHIR JSON datatypes
  4. OWL for codesystems
  5. OWL header in ttl file
  6. FHIR ontology with I2B2 (Harold Solbrig)
  7. Example of connecting FHIR/RDF to external ontology
  8. Possible to create a FHIR profile in OWL using Protege? (Gopi)
  9. ShExMap Q&A
  10. SNOMED Expressions in FHIR RDF #51 (POSTPONED until approx Jul 18)
    1. Issue 51: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/51
    2. Discussion on zulip: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/ontology/subject/SNOMED.20Expressions
    3. Turtle example: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.ttl.html
    4. Same example in JSON: http://build.fhir.org/observation-example-bmd.json.html
  11. Issues list: https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues
  12. Review of remaining FHIR/RDF work: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=RDF_for_Semantic_Interoperability#Deliverables_and_Editors
  13. FHIR RDF deliverables

Approve minutes of recent meetings

Minutes have not been formally approved starting Sep 22, 2020

  1. Recent meetings
    1. Feb 04 (Sydney, Australia)
    2. Feb 13 - canceled
    3. Feb 20
    4. Feb 27
    5. Mar 05
    6. Sep 22 (HL7 Working Group Meetings)

11am ET Thursday Weekly Teleconference Details

Thursdays, 11:00am Eastern US (Boston) time zone
Google Hangout: http://tinyurl.com/fhirrdf
IRC: irc.w3.org port 6665 channel #hcls

See also:

Work Projects

Moved to RDF for Semantic Interoperability home page