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INM will hold an out-of-cycle meeting (the board has approved it) related to Transmission and Transports in San Antonio immediately prior to the WGM.
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INM has held an out-of-cycle meeting (the board has approved it) related to Transmission and Transports in San Antonio immediately prior to the WGM.  
 
 
Dates: Saturday May 6 Q1-Q4, and Sunday May 7 Q1 & Q2. Location: The WGM conference hotel. The meeting room has a 35-person capacity.
 
  
 
== Topics ==
 
== Topics ==
  
Our intent is to do mini-harmonization for the Transmission and Transport domains, and in addition, to find solutions for some of the festering issues that exist in the overlapping areas
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The intent was to do mini-harmonization for the Transmission and Transport domains, and in addition, to find solutions for some of the festering issues that exist in the overlapping areas
 
between these areas. These issues are long running issuesthat do not fit well into the ballot process, and we have been struggling to find time or a process to give them any substantial consideration.  
 
between these areas. These issues are long running issuesthat do not fit well into the ballot process, and we have been struggling to find time or a process to give them any substantial consideration.  
  
There is a large number of outstanding issues. Generally,there is a scope question relating the concept of interactions, transmissions, transports, how they inter-relate with each
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There are a large number of outstanding issues. Generally,there is a scope question relating the concept of interactions, transmissions, transports, how they inter-relate with each
 
other, and how the historical HL7 approach relates to approaches taken in other industries or by other standards bodies (note that we use these other standards for actual transport).
 
other, and how the historical HL7 approach relates to approaches taken in other industries or by other standards bodies (note that we use these other standards for actual transport).
  
'''See below for an agenda; also see the list of [[INM Pre-May WGM out-of-cycle Meeting Attendees|confirmed attendees]]'''.
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'''See below for the agenda; also see the list of [[INM Pre-May WGM out-of-cycle Meeting Attendees|confirmed attendees]]'''.
  
 
== Agenda (Draft) ==
 
== Agenda (Draft) ==
  
The agenda for Saturday Q4 and Sunday Q1/Q2 will be determined by "triaging" the open issues list at the start of the Saturday Q4 meeting. Discussions during SAT Q1-Q3 will be timeboxed to allow a number of issues to be discussed. Motions may be made by partcipants once consensus has been reached on an issue.
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The agenda for Saturday Q4 and Sunday Q1/Q2 was determined by "triaging" the open issues list at the start of the Saturday Q4 meeting.  
 
 
If consensus can't be reached within the alloted timneframe, participants may be asked to create a proposal during Saturday evening to be voted upon on Sunday, or the issue may be deffered from Saturday until Sunday. The aim is to reach consensus on fundemantal open issues, or at least to get a sense of direction by means of a strawvote.
 
  
 
'''Saturday 6 May'''
 
'''Saturday 6 May'''
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** ATS - issues
 
** ATS - issues
 
***Overview: Miroslav will present an overview of open ATS issues. See [[Open ATS Issues]].
 
***Overview: Miroslav will present an overview of open ATS issues. See [[Open ATS Issues]].
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***Topic: Revised [[HL7 Messaging Architecture]]. Explanation of the rationale, main features, components, and layers.
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****Note - all the participants are kindly requested to study the document that has been sent out to the InM list on Friday, 14th of April, with the Subject "List of proposed changes to the ATS Messaging Architecture", until such time the contents of which are moved to Wiki
 
***Topic: [[:Category:ATS Glossary|ATS Glossary definitions]]
 
***Topic: [[:Category:ATS Glossary|ATS Glossary definitions]]
 
***Topic: When are 2 messages "the same"? See known issues on the [[Transmission.id]] page.
 
***Topic: When are 2 messages "the same"? See known issues on the [[Transmission.id]] page.
  
 
* Q2 SOA - issues  
 
* Q2 SOA - issues  
** 1. Overview: The SOA SIG will present a whitepaper with an overview of the various issues, the charter and overall approach being proposed.
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**Overview: The SOA SIG will present a whitepaper with an overview of the various issues, the charter and overall approach being proposed. See slide deck at: [http://hssp-infrastructure.wikispaces.com/SOA4HL7_INM-Out-Of-Cycle_Planning]
** 2. Open discussion on the overall approach (timeboxed!)
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***Open discussion on the overall approach (timeboxed!)
** 3. SOA4HL7 Requirements
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***SOA4HL7 Requirements
** 4. Methodology for defining services and creating service implementations, including approaches to conformance and profiling
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***Methodology for defining services and creating service implementations, including approaches to conformance and profiling
** 5. Infrastructure / Framework (including discussion of v3 Artefacts that should be left to other protocol and technology standards)
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***Infrastructure / Framework (including discussion of v3 Artefacts that should be left to other protocol and technology standards)
** (SOA4HL7 group will continute to revise this aprt of agenda)
 
  
 
*Q3 MCCI - issues
 
*Q3 MCCI - issues
 
**Overview: the INM co-chairs will present an overview of open MCCI issues. See [[Open Transmission Wrapper Issues]] and [[Open Control Act Issues]].
 
**Overview: the INM co-chairs will present an overview of open MCCI issues. See [[Open Transmission Wrapper Issues]] and [[Open Control Act Issues]].
***Topic: [[Transmission Addressing]] (at all levels and layers)
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***Topic: [[Addressing]] (at all levels and layers)
***Topic: [[Interaction Pattern]] (abstract) and [[Transmission Pattern]] ([[HL7 Messaging Architecture]]) - useful? or change definitions?
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***Topic: [[Interaction Pattern]] (abstract) and [[Transmission Pattern]] ([[HL7 Messaging Architecture]])
***Topic: make ControlAct.id mandatory, use to link responses at the business process level.
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****Related: make ControlAct.id mandatory, use to link responses at the business process level.
***Topic: is [[Batch]] a unit of processing (i.e. does it exist at the abstract level) or is it just a Transmission grouper?
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***Topic: It has been suggested by proponents of SOA architectures that the current Transmission Wrapper contains classes and attributes which are not related to Transmission. Where should these be moved to?
***Topic: MCCI R2 Requirement that transports be reliable, set acceptActCode to ER
 
***Topic: overlapping functionality between HL7 & the transport protocol (e.g. reliability, commit ack, sequence number protocol)
 
***Topic: (after SOA discussions): create a [[HL7 Messaging Architecture]] document instead of ATS, group with MCCI in 1 ballot?
 
***Topic: (after SOA discussions) It has been suggested by proponents of SOA architectures that the current Transmission Wrapper contains classes and attributes which are not related to Transmission. Where should these be moved to?
 
 
***Topic: [[:Category:INM Glossary|MCCI Glossary definitions]]
 
***Topic: [[:Category:INM Glossary|MCCI Glossary definitions]]
  
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* Q2 Open  
 
* Q2 Open  
 
** Agenda planned SAT Q4
 
** Agenda planned SAT Q4
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== Additional Topics (if time permits) ==
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*Topic: is [[Batch]] a unit of processing (i.e. does it exist at the abstract level) or is it just a Transmission grouper?
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*Topic: MCCI R2 Requirement that transports be reliable, set acceptActCode to ER
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*Topic: overlapping functionality between HL7 & the transport protocol (e.g. reliability, commit ack, sequence number protocol)
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*Topic: (after SOA discussions): create a [[HL7 Messaging Architecture]] document instead of ATS, group with MCCI in 1 ballot?

Latest revision as of 11:58, 8 May 2006

INM has held an out-of-cycle meeting (the board has approved it) related to Transmission and Transports in San Antonio immediately prior to the WGM.

Topics

The intent was to do mini-harmonization for the Transmission and Transport domains, and in addition, to find solutions for some of the festering issues that exist in the overlapping areas between these areas. These issues are long running issuesthat do not fit well into the ballot process, and we have been struggling to find time or a process to give them any substantial consideration.

There are a large number of outstanding issues. Generally,there is a scope question relating the concept of interactions, transmissions, transports, how they inter-relate with each other, and how the historical HL7 approach relates to approaches taken in other industries or by other standards bodies (note that we use these other standards for actual transport).

See below for the agenda; also see the list of confirmed attendees.

Agenda (Draft)

The agenda for Saturday Q4 and Sunday Q1/Q2 was determined by "triaging" the open issues list at the start of the Saturday Q4 meeting.

Saturday 6 May

  • Q1 Overview & ATS
    • (first 15 minutes) Setting the scene - overview of approach (Miroslav will create initial draft)
    • ATS - issues
      • Overview: Miroslav will present an overview of open ATS issues. See Open ATS Issues.
      • Topic: Revised HL7 Messaging Architecture. Explanation of the rationale, main features, components, and layers.
        • Note - all the participants are kindly requested to study the document that has been sent out to the InM list on Friday, 14th of April, with the Subject "List of proposed changes to the ATS Messaging Architecture", until such time the contents of which are moved to Wiki
      • Topic: ATS Glossary definitions
      • Topic: When are 2 messages "the same"? See known issues on the Transmission.id page.
  • Q2 SOA - issues
    • Overview: The SOA SIG will present a whitepaper with an overview of the various issues, the charter and overall approach being proposed. See slide deck at: [1]
      • Open discussion on the overall approach (timeboxed!)
      • SOA4HL7 Requirements
      • Methodology for defining services and creating service implementations, including approaches to conformance and profiling
      • Infrastructure / Framework (including discussion of v3 Artefacts that should be left to other protocol and technology standards)
  • Q4 Open
    • Agenda planning Q4 and SUN Q1,Q2: Determine priorities and quarters when as-yet undiscussed topics should be discussed

Sunday 7 May

  • Q1 Open
    • Agenda planned SAT Q4
  • Q2 Open
    • Agenda planned SAT Q4

Additional Topics (if time permits)

  • Topic: is Batch a unit of processing (i.e. does it exist at the abstract level) or is it just a Transmission grouper?
  • Topic: MCCI R2 Requirement that transports be reliable, set acceptActCode to ER
  • Topic: overlapping functionality between HL7 & the transport protocol (e.g. reliability, commit ack, sequence number protocol)
  • Topic: (after SOA discussions): create a HL7 Messaging Architecture document instead of ATS, group with MCCI in 1 ballot?