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Meeting Information

HL7 Health Care Devices (HCD / DEV) and IEEE 11073 Medical Device Communications General Committee Meeting Minutes

Location: Junior Ballroom Salon A, Sheraton Vancouver Ball Centre, Vancouver, BC

Date: 2012-04-14
Time: Q1
[mark x if on the conference call, or regrets] [In this section, list those on the conference call] [In this section, record attendee affiliation to identify preponderance of influence; indicate those guests that are not members of the WG.]

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Quorum Requirements Met: Yes/No
quorum achieved as defined in the Work Group Decision Making Practices?


Agenda Topics

  1. Reviewed and approved agenda 2012-JAN DEV WG Minutes / Action Items Review All Action Item topics captured with agenda items later this week
  2. Approved previous meeting minutes

Supporting Documents

  1. List any/all documents to be provided at the meeting, including their URL if applicable. For a WGM, indicate if hardcopies will be supplied or attendees should print off copies themselves


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
All Action Item topics captured with agenda items later this week

  1. HL7 Mission / Charter - 3 Year Plan - SWOT
  2. Initial review of current statements / documents
  3. Mission statement

"enterprise level" - means different things to different people; possibly used by some to "exclude" < what exactly???> ;

  1. ACTION: (Hobbs) Provide a proposal for changing the wording of the first line of the Mission statement (starting "To facilitate the integration of health care device information at the enterprise level by ...")
  2. CLSI - Is this still an active area of coordination
  3. ACTION: (Todd) contact CLSI to get an update w.r.t. their activity in this area
  4. (Andrez) CLSI POCT
  5. RF-ID & 2D Bar code; mechanical optical characteristics + semantic content; new project in CLSI Lab Automation
  6. Chapter 13 (HL7) IHE & CLSI working on an analyzer profile within LAB Domain; LAW profile (lab analyizer workflow)
  1. DEV WG Liaison groups - external
  2. WHO eHSCG - ACTION: check with Melvin
  3. ACTION: Consider adding
  4. ASTM F27,
  5. AAMI,
  6. extend CDRH to include MDICC
  7. IHTSDO (ACTION: Christoph to assess)
  8. LOINC (NLM/Regenstrief) -
  9. ACTION: Christoph to assess
  10. ACTION: Follow up w/ Paul Schluter re. LOINC "harmonization" (per Cambridge 2010 Fall meetings)


  1. HL7 Internal Relationships
  2. Consider adding
    1. Conformance WG
    2. Tooling WG
  3. ACTION: Garguilo to coordinate
  1. HL7 DEV WG Charter
  2. Reviewed the current items in the Charter statement
  3. IDC - Should stay within the Charter of the DEV WG
  4. Consider adding:
  5. Model driven definitions related to POC / PHD devices DCM4MD (Patient Care ...)
  6. ACTION (Rhoads) Check HL7 project for DCM4MD


  1. Command & Control:


  1. Strengths
  2. Weakness
  3. Security WG engagement - should there be more engatement
  4. Opportunity
  5. Mobile Health WG engagement:
  6. FIHR WG?
  7. Threats
  1. Mobile Health WG Forming
  2. Forming - Scope, Mission, Charter etc.
  3. Where did this come from?
  4. Many questions aimed at HL7 w.r.t mHealth engagement
  5. march 16th first TCon to kick off consideration
  6. Presentations on HL7 server ... wiki page
  7. Agenda:
  8. Interim co-chair elections
  9. Liaisons (include DEV WG)
  10. 3-Year Plan
  11. Decision Making Process
  12. Charter
  13. ID data standards & functional requirements
  14. ID & promote terminology for interoperability
  15. Coordinate & cooperate with other groups
  16. With DEV WG: Clear touch points w/ PHD devices
  17. Definition of mHealth?
  18. <see definition from glossary - Rhoads provides reference>
  19. Specifically "Mobile Health Device" focused ... need to clarify in Scope w.r.t. DEV WG Scope
  20. Need to delineate "use cases" to clarify the class of applications that may be the focus of the group
  21. Is this mostly a "presentation" application set
  22. Where does telehealth fit within HL7 today? Historically?
  23. ACTION ?: (Co-Chairs?) Determine whether this mHealth WG would require updating the definition of "health care devices" definition, or does this need to wait until the mHealth group figures out what it's charter is?
  1. DCM4MD General Update
  2. Jan provided a general history / origin of the project
  3. DCM around ventilator usage, was created and has been taken to ballot - comments being resolved?
  4. Thursday Q4 will review specific work in this area

  1. Adjourned 5:05 pm Pacific Time

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Reviewed and approved agenda 2012-JAN DEV WG Minutes / Action Items Review



IEEE 11073 Update (Bennett) <see slides> 11073 PAR approach ACTION: (Wittenber) Open Amendment PAR ACTION: (Wittenber) Modify current Revision PAR to "restructure standard" , consider ... Withdraw current Revision PAR Submit new PAR for an Overview & Arch Document Plan to submit a new PAR for a DB standard - ONCE THE PROCESS IS FINALIZED BY IEEE; Kathryn to report @ September 2012 Baltimore meetings Note: "7x" annual reviews: 4 F2F RevCom/year + 3 TCon meetings 10102 aECG Paul should have a complete draft document around June 7th Ballot Invitees: Harry Solomon (DICOM), Barry Brown (RCRIM), ... HRS? MoU's IHTSDO - Changes in senior management @ both org's stalled renewal ... will be resubmitted soon HL7 - Up for renewal soon ... will confer with HL7 Staff (Karen V.) regarding this process and timing RTMMS: IEEE Senior Management considering making access to RTMMS freely available (!!!) Final decision by 15 June 2012 - possible stakeholder meeting in June at NIST Open questions include governance of who gets to participate in which role Working Group Policies and Procedures need to be checked - should PHD maintain separate ones? TBD ACTION: (Wittenber / Kirwan) to determine if there can be a single harmonized set of working group PnP's, to report back summer 2012 "Ecosystem Mapping Session: Discussion w/ Melvin @ Piscataway in April; 13 action items identified Potential usage of the ISO DB process model Participation @ ITU-WHO Workshop e-Health Standards & Interoperability, Geneva, 26-27 april 2012 ... IEEE participation DICOM Request for nomenclature terms: After 2 years, IEEE processed copyright request for -10101 ecg value sets; -10102 is "on hold" until published AED QoS: Looking at an "AED" (defib) Quality of Service (?) part No current devices support this type of 911 calling (per those in the room who are familiar with these systems) ACTION: (Kathryn) to follow up with 802 contact <name?> to convene a discussion about the possible opportunities in this area EMBS conference in San Diego ... plan on an 11073 presentation? ACTION: (Kathryn) to contact Elliot Sloane to determine if he can Consider whether EMBS is the correct society home for 11073; proposed is "CommSoc" IEEE-SA @ HIMSS 2013 ... will have a booth ? "South by Southwest Interactive 2013" - Should there be an IEEE-SA presence? 11073 session IEEE-SA SASB & Committees: Never been any 11073 representation on these committees


ICE Update (Rausch) <see slides> General discussion around clarification of points on slides For "Plan Going Forward" ... it will be announced in the next few months exactly what those steps are, which includes a restart of the "formal standards work" General discussion of what will be specified in the ASTM specifications (clinical scenario level, technical implementation level) and how conformance can be tested, also at what point will the deliberations on the standards be visible outside the small working group

IEEE Document Numbering Issue For example, Wittenber is proposing 11073-10301-Gx for various "flavors" of an infusion pump device specialziation ACTION: (Kathryn) Will check for options.

ISO TC215 WG7 Resolutions Report 11073-10422 is STILL AN ACTIVE PROJECT!!! 11073-10417 published, being amended, when amended to be submitted for Fast Track 11073-10418 INR monitor - ISO asks that it be submitted for Fast Track New items to be added to work program -10413, -10419, -10441, -10442, -10443 Daidi Zhong: -10406 should be in this list - K. Bennet: there is a resolution on this in Finland meeting

TC215 WG7 being reorganized back into WG2 (where it formerly was)

IEEE 11073 Personal Health Devices work group update (Daidi Zhong) - see presentation More members and institutions Conference calls changed to Thursday 8:15 Pacific 4 new PARS: Resp Rate, Urine Analysis, Sleep Apnea Breathing.., Sleep Quality Monitor

-20601 revision in progress -10411 in 2nd rev. P11073 -10419 - renewed interest from several members, now going forward P11073-00103 PHD over iew recommended for approval by NesCom New PARs approved -10423 Sleep Quality Monitor - team is clarifying scope, might need to be split into two PARs -10424 Sleep Apnea Breathing Therapy Equipment. -10425 Continuous Glucose Monitor

No progress on P11073-10413 (Respiration) , -10404 (pulse oximeter) currently lacking lead authors