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==Agenda==
 
==Agenda==
* see [[FHIR_Agenda_201809_WGM]]
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* see [[File:FHIR-I Attendance-Sept 2018.pdf]]
  
 
==Attendees==
 
==Attendees==
Please fill in your attendance here: [http://bit.ly/fhiri bit.ly/fhiri]
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==Monday Q3==
 
==Monday Q3==
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==Wednesday Q1==
 
==Wednesday Q1==
Chair:  
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Chair: Josh Mandel
Scribe:
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Scribe: Michael Donnelly / Josh Mandel
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=18296 18296]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=18300 18300]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17806 17806]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17746 17746]] - Persuasive with Mod
  
 
==Wednesday Q2==
 
==Wednesday Q2==
Chair:  
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Chair: Ewout Kramer
Scribe:
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Scribe: Josh Mandel
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17776 17776]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17865 17865]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17889 17889]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=18253 18253]] - Not Related
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17742 17742]] - Considered for Future Use
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17697 17697]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17696 17696]] - Not Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17672 17672]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17660 17660]] - Persuasive
  
 
==Wednesday Q4==
 
==Wednesday Q4==
Chair:  
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Chair: Josh Mandel
Scribe:
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Scribe: Josh Mandel
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17699 17699]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17775 17775]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17821 17821]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17782 17782]] - Persuasive with Mod
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17794 17794]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17901 17901]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=19292 19292]] - Considered for Future Use
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=19284 19284]] - Persuasive
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* [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17510 17510]] - Persuasive
  
 
==Thursday Q2==
 
==Thursday Q2==
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==Thursday Q3==
 
==Thursday Q3==
Chair:  
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Chair: Lloyd McKenzie
Scribe:
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Scribe: Lloyd McKenzie
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===SMART Publication Request===
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* Reviewed SMART ballot publication request
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* Motion to approve publication request: Grahame/Josh
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* Concern expressed by Isaac about the "readiness"/level of experience with the open-id connect portion for single sign-on
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* Discussion about nature of concern and how best to address
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* Decision to table to call on Monday
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===Adding "reported" to Request.intent===
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* Specifically, [[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=17169 GF#17169]]
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* Lloyd provided a background on the issue
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* Jenni clarified that base issue was not "source of truth" but need to indicate that a record was 'reported'
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* Concern that tags might be easily changed by man-in-the-middle
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* Confirmation from Grahame that tags can contain critical business information, examples of "actionable" tag, security-related tags
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* Discussion about whether a "reported" flag would be a "modifier element".  Answer: no, because it doesn't change the definition of the element
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** Should include a meaning if missing for number of refills indicating that it's unknown - and thus dispensers can't presume to dispense more than a single fill
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* Discussion of whether there's a difference between a "reported" resource - one that comes into being explicitly known as distinct from source of truth vs. "copies" which are clones of the source of truth.
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* Lloyd indicated that he'd be comfortable with introducing a "reported" flag that could apply to most resources - orthogonal to Request.intent
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* Pharmacy will discuss further.

Latest revision as of 19:45, 15 October 2018

FHIR Infrastructure 2018 September Baltimore WGM Minutes

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Agenda

Attendees

Monday Q3

Chair: Lloyd McKenzie Scribe: Ron Shapiro

Tracker Items

  • general overview of the FHIR Infrastructure WG and WGM Meetings
  • [18671] - Persuasive w/ Mod
  • [17638] - Persuasive w/ Mod
  • [17892] - Not Related

Monday Q6 (Reference Implementations)

Chair: Scribe:

Tuesday Q4

Chair: Lloyd McKenzie Scribe: Ron Shapiro

Tracker Items

  • [18673] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [18793] - Persuasive
  • [18791] - Persuasive
  • [18277] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17915] - Not Persuasive (already fixed)
  • [17906] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [18278] - Not Persuasive
  • [18418] - Persuasive
  • [18284] - Persuasive
  • [18138] - Persuasive
  • [17723] - Persuasive
  • [17725] - Not Persuasive with Mod

Wednesday Q1

Chair: Josh Mandel Scribe: Michael Donnelly / Josh Mandel

  • [18296] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [18300] - Persuasive
  • [17806] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17746] - Persuasive with Mod

Wednesday Q2

Chair: Ewout Kramer Scribe: Josh Mandel

  • [17776] - Persuasive
  • [17865] - Persuasive
  • [17889] - Persuasive
  • [18253] - Not Related
  • [17742] - Considered for Future Use
  • [17697] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17696] - Not Persuasive with Mod
  • [17672] - Persuasive
  • [17660] - Persuasive

Wednesday Q4

Chair: Josh Mandel Scribe: Josh Mandel

  • [17699] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17775] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17821] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17782] - Persuasive with Mod
  • [17794] - Persuasive
  • [17901] - Persuasive
  • [19292] - Considered for Future Use
  • [19284] - Persuasive
  • [17510] - Persuasive

Thursday Q2

Chair: Lloyd McKenzie Scribe: Rick Geimer

Tracker 18335: Inheritance from DomainResource isn't clear in renderings - N-Infra #8

Tracker 17791: Invalid UCUM expressions in FHIR UCUM Valueset

Tracker 17831: Add a new definition of how OPTIONS requests should be handled

Thursday Q3

Chair: Lloyd McKenzie Scribe: Lloyd McKenzie

SMART Publication Request

  • Reviewed SMART ballot publication request
  • Motion to approve publication request: Grahame/Josh
  • Concern expressed by Isaac about the "readiness"/level of experience with the open-id connect portion for single sign-on
  • Discussion about nature of concern and how best to address
  • Decision to table to call on Monday

Adding "reported" to Request.intent

  • Specifically, [GF#17169]
  • Lloyd provided a background on the issue
  • Jenni clarified that base issue was not "source of truth" but need to indicate that a record was 'reported'
  • Concern that tags might be easily changed by man-in-the-middle
  • Confirmation from Grahame that tags can contain critical business information, examples of "actionable" tag, security-related tags
  • Discussion about whether a "reported" flag would be a "modifier element". Answer: no, because it doesn't change the definition of the element
    • Should include a meaning if missing for number of refills indicating that it's unknown - and thus dispensers can't presume to dispense more than a single fill
  • Discussion of whether there's a difference between a "reported" resource - one that comes into being explicitly known as distinct from source of truth vs. "copies" which are clones of the source of truth.
  • Lloyd indicated that he'd be comfortable with introducing a "reported" flag that could apply to most resources - orthogonal to Request.intent
  • Pharmacy will discuss further.