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==Attendees== | ==Attendees== | ||
− | * <span style="color:#0000FF"> | + | * <span style="color:#0000FF"> Todd Cooper, Chris Courville, Stefan Karl, Jörg-Uwe Meyer, Ken Fuchs, Paul Schluter, Ana Kostadinovska, Muhammad Asim, Brian Reinhold, John Rhoads, Martin Rosner, Michael Faughn, John Dyer, John Walsh, Joe Quinn, John Garguilo |
− | Regrets: <span style="color:#0000FF"> | + | Regrets: <span style="color:#0000FF"> None |
==Agenda/Minutes== | ==Agenda/Minutes== | ||
* '''Introductions, Agenda Review''', etc. | * '''Introductions, Agenda Review''', etc. | ||
− | * '''Approve Minutes''' from previous meeting / call -- '''''[[DoF_2017-09-20]]''''' | + | * '''Approve Minutes''' from previous meeting / call -- '''''[[DoF_2017-09-20]]''''' '''APPROVED''' |
* '''Review Key Decisions & Issues from San Diego Meetings | * '''Review Key Decisions & Issues from San Diego Meetings | ||
+ | ::- John Rhoads presented draft notes from the recent San Diego meetings | ||
+ | ::- NOTE: Provisionally posted on the HL7 DEV WG Meeting Minutes folder | ||
+ | ::- @ Swapna / LOINC-11073 Mapping, need to have a clear path to address different levels of granularity (M:N relationships) and pre-/post coordination (e.g., glucose before / after meals, or with body site included, etc.) ; | ||
+ | ::- (Walsh) Questioned why there are synonyms in LOINC for 500ish mappings to 11073 - this will only cause confusion on the part of implementers - what is the value?! Going from ideal of one solution for one semantic to ... "chaos" | ||
+ | ::- (Todd) Please add an item to Mapping for LOINC-11073 Mapping Principles | ||
+ | ::- (Schluter) Already mapping from vendor proprietary to standardized terminology | ||
* '''NIBs Review | * '''NIBs Review | ||
+ | ::- Martin reviewed the PHD NIB for the next ballot cycle | ||
+ | ::- NIB was updated and APPROVED by meeting participants | ||
* '''Observation Vital Signs Profile / LOINC Requirement Solution - update | * '''Observation Vital Signs Profile / LOINC Requirement Solution - update | ||
+ | ::- (Brian) Proposed to add a "null" LOINC code indicating that it hasn't been normalized to LOINC; may or may not be a vital sign | ||
+ | ::- NOTE: There is also a discussion afoot about multiple LOINC codes for the same semantic (one more general / one more specific) | ||
+ | ::- (Chris) DEV WG was going to set up a follow-up meeting with Swapna regarding this and specific mappings for the 8 codes that are identified in the profile | ||
+ | ::- '''ACTION''': Schedule time with Swapna to discuss the mappings | ||
+ | ::- '''ACTION''': Coordinate approach with OO on "null" code | ||
* '''PHD Containment w/o Device resources | * '''PHD Containment w/o Device resources | ||
+ | ::- (Asim) PCHAlliance has balloted FHIR Guidelines w/o Device resource, making it difficult to change at this point; should advance to "trial use" to see how it works | ||
+ | ::- Next opportunity for harmonization will be after implementation experience, at the implementation guide | ||
+ | ::- Still unclear how such a disconnect could happen in the DoF discussions; but that is history at this point | ||
+ | * '''PoCD & PHD DIM Comparisons (Faughn) | ||
+ | ::- Michael compared the PoCD and PHD ASN.1 data types using his DIM tooling; not finished is a comparison at the object level (e.g., Metric in PoCD vs. PHD) | ||
+ | ::::* (Brian) in the data model, such as the Metric object, Type, Metric ID, ID List, Partition, Timestamps, etc. How do these match between the two? | ||
+ | ::- There are significant differences between these, with few shared data types and numerous cases where there is the same ASN.1 structure names but different content | ||
+ | ::- CONCLUSION: There is little value in trying to establish a common set of FHIR profiled artifacts that are leveraged by the PHD and PoCD IGs | ||
+ | ::- PHD & PoCD harmonization will have to be pursued at the IG level | ||
+ | '''''<Additional topics pushed to next DoF call> | ||
* '''11073 / MDC FHIR Documentation Page Review | * '''11073 / MDC FHIR Documentation Page Review | ||
* '''PoCD IG ToC Discussion | * '''PoCD IG ToC Discussion |
Revision as of 14:11, 27 September 2017
In process - awaiting insertion of notes
Meeting Information
- NOTE: Updated with HL7 FreeConferenceCall Info
- Online Meeting
- Link: https://join.freeconferencecall.com/devicesonfhir
- ID: devicesonfhir
- Online Meeting
- Dial-in Number
- United States: (605) 475-4793
- Access Code: 399374
- International Dial-in Numbers: https://www.freeconferencecall.com/wall/devicesonfhir#international
- Dial-in Number
Attendees
- Todd Cooper, Chris Courville, Stefan Karl, Jörg-Uwe Meyer, Ken Fuchs, Paul Schluter, Ana Kostadinovska, Muhammad Asim, Brian Reinhold, John Rhoads, Martin Rosner, Michael Faughn, John Dyer, John Walsh, Joe Quinn, John Garguilo
Regrets: None
Agenda/Minutes
- Introductions, Agenda Review, etc.
- Approve Minutes from previous meeting / call -- DoF_2017-09-20 APPROVED
- Review Key Decisions & Issues from San Diego Meetings
- - John Rhoads presented draft notes from the recent San Diego meetings
- - NOTE: Provisionally posted on the HL7 DEV WG Meeting Minutes folder
- - @ Swapna / LOINC-11073 Mapping, need to have a clear path to address different levels of granularity (M:N relationships) and pre-/post coordination (e.g., glucose before / after meals, or with body site included, etc.) ;
- - (Walsh) Questioned why there are synonyms in LOINC for 500ish mappings to 11073 - this will only cause confusion on the part of implementers - what is the value?! Going from ideal of one solution for one semantic to ... "chaos"
- - (Todd) Please add an item to Mapping for LOINC-11073 Mapping Principles
- - (Schluter) Already mapping from vendor proprietary to standardized terminology
- NIBs Review
- - Martin reviewed the PHD NIB for the next ballot cycle
- - NIB was updated and APPROVED by meeting participants
- Observation Vital Signs Profile / LOINC Requirement Solution - update
- - (Brian) Proposed to add a "null" LOINC code indicating that it hasn't been normalized to LOINC; may or may not be a vital sign
- - NOTE: There is also a discussion afoot about multiple LOINC codes for the same semantic (one more general / one more specific)
- - (Chris) DEV WG was going to set up a follow-up meeting with Swapna regarding this and specific mappings for the 8 codes that are identified in the profile
- - ACTION: Schedule time with Swapna to discuss the mappings
- - ACTION: Coordinate approach with OO on "null" code
- PHD Containment w/o Device resources
- - (Asim) PCHAlliance has balloted FHIR Guidelines w/o Device resource, making it difficult to change at this point; should advance to "trial use" to see how it works
- - Next opportunity for harmonization will be after implementation experience, at the implementation guide
- - Still unclear how such a disconnect could happen in the DoF discussions; but that is history at this point
- PoCD & PHD DIM Comparisons (Faughn)
- - Michael compared the PoCD and PHD ASN.1 data types using his DIM tooling; not finished is a comparison at the object level (e.g., Metric in PoCD vs. PHD)
- (Brian) in the data model, such as the Metric object, Type, Metric ID, ID List, Partition, Timestamps, etc. How do these match between the two?
- - There are significant differences between these, with few shared data types and numerous cases where there is the same ASN.1 structure names but different content
- - CONCLUSION: There is little value in trying to establish a common set of FHIR profiled artifacts that are leveraged by the PHD and PoCD IGs
- - PHD & PoCD harmonization will have to be pursued at the IG level
- - Michael compared the PoCD and PHD ASN.1 data types using his DIM tooling; not finished is a comparison at the object level (e.g., Metric in PoCD vs. PHD)
<Additional topics pushed to next DoF call>
- 11073 / MDC FHIR Documentation Page Review
- PoCD IG ToC Discussion
- Tooling Updates (Confluence / JIRA / Forge / Simplifier)
- New Business
- Plan next meeting - DoF 2017-10-04 (CC & WebEx)