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=Proposed Agenda=
 
=Proposed Agenda=
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Just created, not yet edited for San Diego September 2017
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Titles of quarters are agreed upon but agenda was copied from the last WGM. Contents of quarters is still being discussed.
  
 
== Sunday ==
 
== Sunday ==
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===Admin===
 
===Admin===
 
*Review and make final changes for agenda for WGM
 
*Review and make final changes for agenda for WGM
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*Review minutes from WGM and approve
 
*Projects review
 
*Projects review
 
*Review Gforge tracker items (new, assigned, open, etc.)
 
*Review Gforge tracker items (new, assigned, open, etc.)
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
*Host: Conformance
 
*Host: Conformance
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*Chair: Rob
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*Chair: Frank
 
*Scribe: Nathan
 
*Scribe: Nathan
 
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   </td>
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Primary Topics
 
Primary Topics
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* Prepare for FHIR meeting on Wednesday
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* Cross Paradigm Implementation Guide
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* Prepare for meeting with HL7 & OO & AID for implementation package and validation of HL7v2
 
 
* Conformance length in HL7 v2
 
* Conformance length in HL7 v2
 
** Need to write the history
 
** Need to write the history
 
** What is allowable in constraining?
 
** What is allowable in constraining?
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** Need to write it down - Position Statement / White Paper? Will go into Conformance Chapter / Best Practices
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* Unified Conformance Model - How they relate to FHIR
  
 
Additional topics if there is time and interest
 
Additional topics if there is time and interest
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**Conformance supports business requirements, business rules determine how to process receiving data
 
**Conformance supports business requirements, business rules determine how to process receiving data
 
**How to handle HL7 versions you don't expect
 
**How to handle HL7 versions you don't expect
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*Data Type Flavors Discussion
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*Conformance statement versus small value set (question from PHER)
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*Test Script and FHIR Validation
  
  
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
*Host: Conformance
 
*Host: Conformance
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*Chair: Frank
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*Chair: Rob
 
*Scribe: Nathan
 
*Scribe: Nathan
 
   </td>
 
   </td>
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   <td>
 
   <td>
 
===Joint Discussion with InM===
 
===Joint Discussion with InM===
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* Conformance length in HL7 v2
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tbd (do we need a joint session?)
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* Profile identifiers, versioning and how it is used in queries
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** Query id in MSH-21, review and give best practices
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* Acknowledgement debrief, update on where we are at with it
  
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
Host: InM<br/>
 
Host: InM<br/>
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Joining: Conformance<br/>
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Joining: Conformance
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Chair: Rob<br/>
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Scribe: Nathan
 
 
</td>
 
</td>
 
  </tr>
 
  </tr>
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<tr>
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<tr>
 
   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q4</th>
 
   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q4</th>
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   <td>
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   <td colspan="3"><i>not meeting</i></td>
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===General Conformance Discussion===
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</tr>
  
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  </td>
 
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  <td>tbd</td>
 
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  <td>
 
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Host: Conformance<br/>
 
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Chair: Rob<br/>
 
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Scribe: Nathan
 
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</td>
 
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</tr>
 
 
</table>
 
</table>
  
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   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q1</th>
 
   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q1</th>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
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===Conformance within Immunization Space===
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===Conformance Tooling Demonstrations===
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Standing quarter to look at tooling efforts.
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Agenda for demonstrations and discussion will be determined at the start of the quarter based on participants who attend.
  
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tbd
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Demonstrations:
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*AEGIS
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**FHIR Conformance testing tool Touchstone
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**IHE/HL7/eHEX testing tool DIL
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*MDHT for CIMI and CDA (Sean Muir)
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*NIST Milestone Progress Review
  
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
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   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q2</th>
 
   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q2</th>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
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===Conformance Tooling Demonstrations===
 
  
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Standing quarter to look at tooling efforts.
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===Conformance within Immunization Space===
  
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Agenda for demonstrations and discussion will be determined at the start of the quarter based on participants who attend.
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A roundtable informal discussion will be held with reports on progress from:
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*Craig Newman: Immunization Guide Balloting
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*Rob Snelick: NIST Tooling Update
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*Floyd Eisenberg: Findings from EHR Testing
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*Nathan Bunker: Update on IIS Testing and Progress on FHIR Standard to support CDS for Immunizations
  
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
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Chair: Rob<br/>
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Chair: Nathan<br/>
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Scribe: Nathan
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Scribe: Rob
 
</td>
 
</td>
 
  </tr>
 
  </tr>
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   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q3</th>
 
   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q3</th>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
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===FHIR discussions===
 
===FHIR discussions===
 
*Versioning FHIR
 
*Versioning FHIR
 
**[[Conformance_Position_on_FHIR_Versions]]
 
**[[Conformance_Position_on_FHIR_Versions]]
 
** Review Work done for new metadata
 
** Review Work done for new metadata
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*FHIR Quality Criteria
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** How lessons from HL7 v2 versioning can help FHIR
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** Review of further requests for more/other criteria
 
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*FHIR StructureDefinition vs. Templates vs. v2 Profiling
 
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** Constraint Language: Status Update
 
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*General Update from FHIR
 
 
*FHIR Conformance Review
 
*FHIR Conformance Review
 
** Original document [[FHIR_Constraints_and_Rules]]
 
** Original document [[FHIR_Constraints_and_Rules]]
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** Create a slide set of any recommendations for improvements to FHIR to support conformance needs
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** Review slide set of recommendations for improvements to FHIR to support conformance needs
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*Running Items
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**FHIR Quality Criteria
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*** Review of further requests for more/other criteria
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**FHIR StructureDefinition vs. Templates vs. v2 Profiling
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*** Constraint Language: Status Update
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*Test Script and FHIR Validation
 
</td>
 
</td>
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<td>tbd</td>
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<td>Palatine A</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
 
Joining: FHIR-I, Templates<br/>
 
Joining: FHIR-I, Templates<br/>
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Chair: Frank<br/>
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Chair: Ioana<br/>
 
Scribe: Nathan
 
Scribe: Nathan
 
</td>
 
</td>
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===General Conformance Discussion (final)===
 
===General Conformance Discussion (final)===
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*Data Type Flavors Discussion
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*Review Conformance Tutorial
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*Conformance statement versus small value set (question from PHER)
 
 
*Wrap-up and Admin
 
*Wrap-up and Admin
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**May 2017 WGM agenda planning
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**Overflow topics
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**Jan 2018 WGM agenda planning
  
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>tbd</td>
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   <td>Guest Room 308</td>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
 
Host: Conformance<br/>
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Chair: Rob<br/>
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Chair: Frank<br/>
 
Scribe: Nathan
 
Scribe: Nathan
 
</td>
 
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</td>
 
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   <td>Alcudia</td>
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   <td>San Remo</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
  </tr>
 
  </tr>
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===Vocabulary===
 
===Vocabulary===
 
*Vocabulary [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Binding_Syntax Binding Syntax: Requirements]
 
*Vocabulary [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Binding_Syntax Binding Syntax: Requirements]
 
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   <td>Alcudia</td>
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   <td>San Remo</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
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  </tr>
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   <th bgcolor="#aef3e7">Q3</th>
 
   <td>
 
   <td>
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===Vocabulary===
 
===Vocabulary===
 
</td>
 
</td>
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   <td>Alcudia</td>
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   <td>San Remo</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
   <td>Host: Vocab</td>
 
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Latest revision as of 16:29, 13 September 2017

Proposed Agenda

Titles of quarters are agreed upon but agenda was copied from the last WGM. Contents of quarters is still being discussed.

Sunday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1 not meeting
Q2 not meeting
Q3 not meeting
Q4 not meeting

Monday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1 not meeting - Plenary
Q2 not meeting - Plenary
Lunch
Q3

Admin

  • Review and make final changes for agenda for WGM
  • Review minutes from WGM and approve
  • Projects review
  • Review Gforge tracker items (new, assigned, open, etc.)
  • Health Metrics (optional)
 Guest Room 308
  • Host: Conformance
  • Chair: Frank
  • Scribe: Nathan
Q4

General Conformance Discussion

Primary Topics

  • Cross Paradigm Implementation Guide
  • Conformance length in HL7 v2
    • Need to write the history
    • What is allowable in constraining?
    • Need to write it down - Position Statement / White Paper? Will go into Conformance Chapter / Best Practices
  • Unified Conformance Model - How they relate to FHIR

Additional topics if there is time and interest

  • Implementation Guide Template
    • Standardized conformance section (Boiler plate language that defines the definitions of conformance the way we want it defined. Included directly or referenced.)
  • Pulling out Chapter 2B. Needs a new title: HL7 V2 Conformance Model ?
    • Higher level of constraint definitions that cross product families
  • General V2 Test Cases
  • Specification of Co-Constraints
    • Issues associated with giving constraints on items such as Observation (OBX) segments. Every guide author is using different ways of defining the co-constraints.
    • Discuss ideas about how to standardize the expression of these co-constraints.
    • Asking for feedback in regards to how this is done in other standards such as V3, FHIR, etc.
  • Need a best-practices/recommendations for properly using conformance
    • Conformance supports business requirements, business rules determine how to process receiving data
    • How to handle HL7 versions you don't expect
  • Data Type Flavors Discussion
  • Conformance statement versus small value set (question from PHER)
  • Test Script and FHIR Validation


 Guest Room 308
  • Host: Conformance
  • Chair: Rob
  • Scribe: Nathan

Tuesday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1 not meeting - Conformance Tutorial
Q2 not meeting - Conformance Tutorial
Lunch
Q3

Joint Discussion with InM

  • Conformance length in HL7 v2
  • Profile identifiers, versioning and how it is used in queries
    • Query id in MSH-21, review and give best practices
  • Acknowledgement debrief, update on where we are at with it
 Guest Room 308

Host: InM
Joining: Conformance

Q4 not meeting

Wednesday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1

Conformance Tooling Demonstrations

Standing quarter to look at tooling efforts.

Agenda for demonstrations and discussion will be determined at the start of the quarter based on participants who attend.

Demonstrations:

  • AEGIS
    • FHIR Conformance testing tool Touchstone
    • IHE/HL7/eHEX testing tool DIL
  • MDHT for CIMI and CDA (Sean Muir)
  • NIST Milestone Progress Review
 Guest Room 308

Host: Conformance
Chair: Rob
Scribe: Nathan

Q2

Conformance within Immunization Space

A roundtable informal discussion will be held with reports on progress from:

  • Craig Newman: Immunization Guide Balloting
  • Rob Snelick: NIST Tooling Update
  • Floyd Eisenberg: Findings from EHR Testing
  • Nathan Bunker: Update on IIS Testing and Progress on FHIR Standard to support CDS for Immunizations
 Guest Room 308

Host: Conformance
Chair: Nathan
Scribe: Rob

Lunch
Q3

FHIR discussions

  • Versioning FHIR
  • FHIR Conformance Review
    • Original document FHIR_Constraints_and_Rules
    • Review slide set of recommendations for improvements to FHIR to support conformance needs
  • Running Items
    • FHIR Quality Criteria
      • Review of further requests for more/other criteria
    • FHIR StructureDefinition vs. Templates vs. v2 Profiling
      • Constraint Language: Status Update
  • Test Script and FHIR Validation
 Palatine A

Host: Conformance
Joining: FHIR-I, Templates
Chair: Ioana
Scribe: Nathan

Q4

General Conformance Discussion (final)

  • Review Conformance Tutorial
  • Wrap-up and Admin
    • Overflow topics
    • Jan 2018 WGM agenda planning
 Guest Room 308

Host: Conformance
Chair: Frank
Scribe: Nathan

Thursday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1

Vocabulary

  • Terminology Quality Assurance
  • Tables Project

Items that can be discussed Thursday AM

  • Table 0163 and 0550.
  • Adding new codes to HL7 tables (what code system to use, what is the process)
  • How to use the new code systems (hl7 table project)
 San Remo Host: Vocab
Q2

Vocabulary

 San Remo Host: Vocab
Lunch
Q3

Vocabulary

 San Remo Host: Vocab
Q4 not meeting

Friday

Quarter Agenda Room Responsibilities
Q1 not meeting
Q1 not meeting

Quarter Times

Quarter Time
Q1 9:00 AM - 10:30 AM
Q2 11:00 AM - 12:30 PM
Q3 1:45 PM - 3:00 PM
Q4 3:30 PM - 5:00 PM
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