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The Coffee Lounge (known as the Village pump in Wikipedia) is a discussion forum. This page is used to discuss the technical issues, policies, and operations of the HL7 Wiki. The Coffee Lounge is not a place to make lasting comments as inactive discussions will be permanently removed after a while.  
 
The Coffee Lounge (known as the Village pump in Wikipedia) is a discussion forum. This page is used to discuss the technical issues, policies, and operations of the HL7 Wiki. The Coffee Lounge is not a place to make lasting comments as inactive discussions will be permanently removed after a while.  
  
==WGM Internet Access==
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==Welcome==
During the TSC in Boca Raton, INM will make a motion (supported by MnM) for the TSC to requests that the board
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Welcome to the HL7 Wiki. Please be aware that the Wiki has content in support of ongoing work by HL7 working groups as well as user groups - organizational details as well as the HL7 standards themselves can be found on the [http://www.hl7.org www.hl7.org] website.
arrange for internet access during future Working Group Meetings in the committee/Sig meeting rooms. The reasons for this request are probably well known, the board has yet to formulate a policy with regard to internet availability.
 
 
 
==Wiki Nite==
 
[[Image:Wiki_nite.jpg|160px|right|thumb|Wiki Nite]]
 
 
 
The third edition of the "Wiki Nite" will be organized on September 12th during the Boca Raton WGM as one of the "open space" meetings. The aim of this meeting is
 
#to raise awareness of Wiki technology (and other collaborative technologies) to support the process of creating HL7 standards.  
 
#to have a Wikimeet. A Wikimeet is a meeting of people within HL7 that use a Wiki. Being able to see the changes that are happening adds an interesting factor to the wiki philosophy. Simultaneously working on various areas of the Wiki in many cases provides a huge boost in productivity.
 
  
 
==Wiki Etiquette==
 
==Wiki Etiquette==
*Management of the Wiki: who will take responsibility for vetting the information placed in the HL7 Wiki? What should the HL7 [[Wiki Etiquette]] look like ?  
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*Management of the Wiki: who will take responsibility for vetting the information placed in the HL7 Wiki? What should the HL7 Wiki Etiquette look like ?  
 
**One of the nice aspects of a Wiki site is the opportunity to have free exchange of thoughts. The challenge is that changes are made more easily and is therefore subject to proper wiki etiquette and discipline, as well as that at any point in time the site may not be reflective of the collective consensus on a particular topic. Simple Wiki etiquette requires that contributors stick to facts and consensus on the main pages. The comments/talk/discussion pages are for anything that is questionable, controversial, or unsettled. Wiki Moderators need a effective way of discouraging heated open disputes.
 
**One of the nice aspects of a Wiki site is the opportunity to have free exchange of thoughts. The challenge is that changes are made more easily and is therefore subject to proper wiki etiquette and discipline, as well as that at any point in time the site may not be reflective of the collective consensus on a particular topic. Simple Wiki etiquette requires that contributors stick to facts and consensus on the main pages. The comments/talk/discussion pages are for anything that is questionable, controversial, or unsettled. Wiki Moderators need a effective way of discouraging heated open disputes.
**The option of "freezing" of pages (a lockout) should probably be limited to co-chairs.
 
  
 
==Status of the Wiki==
 
==Status of the Wiki==
*Do we need a Wiki that is maintained/controlled/administered by HL7.org, and if so, how do we arrange this?
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*Minutes of WG meetings, ballot reconciliation spreadsheets nor motions can refer to a Wiki page. When a motion references a Wiki page, the Wiki page should be copy/pasted into the Minutes. This as a persistent way to record (as per ANSI requirements) what was agreed upon at a particular point in time.  
**A knowledgeable team is needed to manage/update the Wiki software. Mayo is willing to host the HL7 Wiki until such a time that HL7 decides to host it, and provided that use of (human) resources is limited.
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*Meeting minutes and motions can be captured on the Wiki, but will always have to be copy/pasted into meeting minutes uploaded to the HL7 Website. The contents of the Wiki are not a persistent record.
**Need to establish a policy/clearly defined rules that communicate the intent on how the wiki and the HL7 web site interact.  
 
  
==Status of Wiki content==
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==6400 Pages==
*Normative status of the Wiki content. A combination of a wiki site and a web site, one flowing freely and openly knowing that it is such a dynamic site, the other controlled and reflective of agreed to direction and "sanctioned" materials, suits the combined needs.  In a way the wiki is no more sanctioned then the cumulative list server activity, but easier to get the bigger picture of a discussion. Once consensus has been reached on the Wiki, the content can be frozen and included in a ballot.
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*The HL7 Wiki reached 6400 pages in September 2013. We had 5200 pages in July 2012; 4800 pages on Feb 1, 2012; 4200 pages on July 1st, 2011; 4000 pages on April 20, 2011; 3600 pages on January 25, 2011; 3200 pages on July 9, 2010; 3000 pages in May 2010; 2900 pages on March 29, 2010; 2800 pages on March 5, 2010; 2700 pages on January 28, 2010; 2600 pages on Dec. 21, 2009; 2400 pages on Oct 8, 2009; 2200 pages on July 14th (2009) and 2100 pages on May 9th (2009).
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*The 2000 page mark was reached in March 2009. See [http://www.ringholm.de/column/hl7_wiki_reaches_2000_pages.htm] for an analysis of the number of pages on the HL7 wiki. The 1900 page mark was reached on January 22 2009; 1800 on December 13th 2008; 1500 around July 1st 2008.
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**The Wiki was moved to the hl7.org domain in June 2008 and merged with the contents of Wikis hosted elsewhere (estimated at 500 additional pages).  
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**When still hosted by Mayo (as it originally was, outside of HL7), the 900 page mark was reached on January 2nd, 2008 (800 on October 1st, 2007; 700 on April 4, 2007; 600 on December 29, 2006; 500 on October 1st, 2006; 400 - probably created in July 2006).

Latest revision as of 06:41, 26 September 2013

The Coffee Lounge (known as the Village pump in Wikipedia) is a discussion forum. This page is used to discuss the technical issues, policies, and operations of the HL7 Wiki. The Coffee Lounge is not a place to make lasting comments as inactive discussions will be permanently removed after a while.

Welcome

Welcome to the HL7 Wiki. Please be aware that the Wiki has content in support of ongoing work by HL7 working groups as well as user groups - organizational details as well as the HL7 standards themselves can be found on the www.hl7.org website.

Wiki Etiquette

  • Management of the Wiki: who will take responsibility for vetting the information placed in the HL7 Wiki? What should the HL7 Wiki Etiquette look like ?
    • One of the nice aspects of a Wiki site is the opportunity to have free exchange of thoughts. The challenge is that changes are made more easily and is therefore subject to proper wiki etiquette and discipline, as well as that at any point in time the site may not be reflective of the collective consensus on a particular topic. Simple Wiki etiquette requires that contributors stick to facts and consensus on the main pages. The comments/talk/discussion pages are for anything that is questionable, controversial, or unsettled. Wiki Moderators need a effective way of discouraging heated open disputes.

Status of the Wiki

  • Minutes of WG meetings, ballot reconciliation spreadsheets nor motions can refer to a Wiki page. When a motion references a Wiki page, the Wiki page should be copy/pasted into the Minutes. This as a persistent way to record (as per ANSI requirements) what was agreed upon at a particular point in time.
  • Meeting minutes and motions can be captured on the Wiki, but will always have to be copy/pasted into meeting minutes uploaded to the HL7 Website. The contents of the Wiki are not a persistent record.

6400 Pages

  • The HL7 Wiki reached 6400 pages in September 2013. We had 5200 pages in July 2012; 4800 pages on Feb 1, 2012; 4200 pages on July 1st, 2011; 4000 pages on April 20, 2011; 3600 pages on January 25, 2011; 3200 pages on July 9, 2010; 3000 pages in May 2010; 2900 pages on March 29, 2010; 2800 pages on March 5, 2010; 2700 pages on January 28, 2010; 2600 pages on Dec. 21, 2009; 2400 pages on Oct 8, 2009; 2200 pages on July 14th (2009) and 2100 pages on May 9th (2009).
  • The 2000 page mark was reached in March 2009. See [1] for an analysis of the number of pages on the HL7 wiki. The 1900 page mark was reached on January 22 2009; 1800 on December 13th 2008; 1500 around July 1st 2008.
    • The Wiki was moved to the hl7.org domain in June 2008 and merged with the contents of Wikis hosted elsewhere (estimated at 500 additional pages).
    • When still hosted by Mayo (as it originally was, outside of HL7), the 900 page mark was reached on January 2nd, 2008 (800 on October 1st, 2007; 700 on April 4, 2007; 600 on December 29, 2006; 500 on October 1st, 2006; 400 - probably created in July 2006).