April 8, 2014 Security WG Conference Call

Meeting Information

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Attendees

Member Name	Present		Member Name	Present		Member Name	Present
Mike Davis Security Co-chair	x		John Moehrke Security Co-chair			Trish Williams Security Co-chair
Bernd Blobel, Security Co-chair	.		Johnathan Coleman	.		Kathleen Connor	x
Duane DeCouteau			Reed Gelzer	.		Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-chair	x
Rick Grow	x		David Henkel	x		Mohammed Jafari	x
Don Jorgenson	.		Diana Proud-Madruga	x		Harry Rhodes	.
Ioana Singureanu	.		Richard Thoreson CBCC Co-chair	.		Ross Freeman	.
Amanda Nash			Walter Suarez	.		Tony Weida	x
Chris Clark	.		Paul Petronelli	.			.
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Agenda

1. (05 min) Roll Call, Approve April 1, 2014 Security WG Conference Call Minutes & Accept Agenda
2. (15 min) Way with Verbs-State of the mindmap. Strategy for HL7 EHR. Use of Thesaurus (synonym and antonym lists)
3. (15 min) Scope statement for patient friendly consent directive
4. (15 min) SOA/FHIR Discovery Day
5. (15 min) Scope statement for Provenance

Meeting Minutes DRAFT

Meeting minutes for April 1, 2014 approved by WG

Mike showing thesaurus.com website

• looking at CRUDEA - create, read, update, delete synonyms are reasonably orthogonal with each other (fairly pure in the thesaurus.)
• in searching for some of the more arguemental words, why can't we accept some sort of thesaurus like this--this way we could eliminate some of the discussion.
  • update - had some interesting twists to it.
• Kathleen - there has been some work already done in HL7; we may not want to delve too deep into this
• Mike - would like to get out of the vocabulary business

Mike - we are looking to define a process for terms, placing them in an ontology in the propoer place i.e.,

1. identify a term
2. write a definitions (for EHR, Security...similar to the RBAC)
3. harmonize the conflict
4. place in the ontology
5. establish in the parent-child relationships
6. do the next term

lists steps, list inputs/outcomes in a repeatable process way where we will get the same answer again.

Scope Statement for Patient Natural Language - tabled

Scope Statement for Provenance

• first meeting on the 10th, Thursday at 12Noon ET
• has applicability in HL7, FHIR resources
• ONC has asked HL7 to create a provenance IG (similar to DS4P IG)
  • goal date is for September 2014 ballot
• ONC plans to provide for some resources to help us in this process(CBCC primary, Security co-sponsor)
  • if they have any ability to make changes for MU, they have to have this standard in place, to have it available in Oct, regarding provenance and reference this IG
• in order to follow the process in HL7, have
• ACTION: Draft Scope statement, get approval
  • Johnathan has clear ideas on what needs to go into the scope statement
  • Security will be participating and trying to see how that fits within the FHIR activities

ACTION: Mike to send e-mail to Johnathan to attend next meetings; Johnathan will be leading this project and should be listed as so in the scope statement.

FHIR

• idea from Ken Rubin (on co-chair list)
• looking for nominations for proposals for the Discovery Day for FHIR/SOA
  • we have a relationship because of the SLS and we have done some demonstrations.
  • Mike has an idea that Duane come in and make a proposal for presentation where he would create connect-the-dots between SLS, FHIR and SOA
  • since security meets regularly on Tuesday, we would have a representative present

• another option would be a Provenance piece; ideas for a provenance service that could be part of an SOA architectures. i.e. diagnosis

Mind-Map