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|      [mailto:mike.davis@va.gov Mike Davis] Security Co-chair ||
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|      [mailto:mike.davis@va.gov Mike Davis] Security Co-chair ||x
 
|| ||  [mailto:john.moehrke@med.ge.com John Moehrke] Security Co-chair ||
 
|| ||  [mailto:john.moehrke@med.ge.com John Moehrke] Security Co-chair ||
 
|| ||  [mailto:trish.williams@ecu.edu.au Trish Williams] Security Co-chair ||
 
|| ||  [mailto:trish.williams@ecu.edu.au Trish Williams] Security Co-chair ||
 
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|      [mailto:bernd.blobel@klinik.uni-regensburg.de Bernd Blobel], Security Co-chair ||.  
 
|      [mailto:bernd.blobel@klinik.uni-regensburg.de Bernd Blobel], Security Co-chair ||.  
|| ||  [mailto:jc@securityrs.com Johnathan Coleman]||x
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|| ||  [mailto:Kathleen_Connor@comcast.net Kathleen Connor] ||x
 
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||    [mailto:rgrow@technatomy.com Rick Grow] || x
 
|| ||  [mailto:dhenkel@technatomy.com David Henkel]|| x
 
|| ||  [mailto:dhenkel@technatomy.com David Henkel]|| x
|| ||  [mailto:mjafari@edmondsci.com Mohammed Jafari]||
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||    [mailto:djorgenson@inpriva.com Don Jorgenson]|| .
 
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* Mike - would like to get out of the vocabulary business
 
* Mike - would like to get out of the vocabulary business
  
Mike - we are looking to define a process for terms, placing them in an ontology in the propoer place
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Mike - we are looking to define a process for terms, placing them in an ontology in the propoer place i.e.,
 
# identify a term
 
# identify a term
 
# write a definitions (for EHR, Security...similar to the RBAC)
 
# write a definitions (for EHR, Security...similar to the RBAC)
 
# harmonize the conflict
 
# harmonize the conflict
#place in the ontology
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# place in the ontology
#establish in the parent-child relationships
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# establish in the parent-child relationships
 
# do the next term
 
# do the next term
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 +
lists steps, list inputs/outcomes in a repeatable process way where we will get the same answer again.
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 +
Scope Statement for Patient Natural Language - tabled
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Scope Statement for Provenance
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* first meeting on the 10th, Thursday at 12Noon ET
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* has applicability in HL7, FHIR resources
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* ONC has asked HL7 to create a provenance IG (similar to DS4P IG)
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** goal date is for September 2014 ballot
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* ONC plans to provide for some resources to help us in this process(CBCC primary, Security co-sponsor)
 +
** if they have any ability to make changes for MU, they have to have this standard in place, to have it available in Oct, regarding provenance and reference this IG
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* in order to follow the process in HL7, have
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* ACTION: Draft Scope statement, get approval
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** Johnathan has clear ideas on what needs to go into the scope statement
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** Security will be participating and trying to see how that fits within the FHIR activities
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ACTION:  Mike to send e-mail to Johnathan to attend next meetings; Johnathan will be leading this project and should be listed as so in the scope statement.
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FHIR
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* idea from Ken Rubin (on co-chair list)
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* looking for nominations for proposals for the Discovery Day for FHIR/SOA
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** we have a relationship because of the SLS and we have done some demonstrations.
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** Mike has an idea that Duane come in and make a proposal for presentation where he would create connect-the-dots between SLS, FHIR and SOA
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** since security meets regularly on Tuesday, we would have a representative present
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'''Mind-Map'''

Revision as of 21:52, 8 April 2014

Meeting Information

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Attendees

Member Name Present Member Name Present Member Name Present
Mike Davis Security Co-chair x John Moehrke Security Co-chair Trish Williams Security Co-chair
Bernd Blobel, Security Co-chair . Johnathan Coleman . Kathleen Connor x
Duane DeCouteau Reed Gelzer . Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-chair x
Rick Grow x David Henkel x Mohammed Jafari x
Don Jorgenson . Diana Proud-Madruga x Harry Rhodes .
Ioana Singureanu . Richard Thoreson CBCC Co-chair . Ross Freeman .
Amanda Nash Walter Suarez . Tony Weida x
Chris Clark . Paul Petronelli . .
. . .


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Agenda

  1. (05 min) Roll Call, Approve April 1, 2014 Security WG Conference Call Minutes & Accept Agenda
  2. (15 min) Way with Verbs-State of the mindmap. Strategy for HL7 EHR. Use of Thesaurus (synonym and antonym lists)
  3. (15 min) Scope statement for patient friendly consent directive
  4. (15 min) SOA/FHIR Discovery Day
  5. (15 min) Scope statement for Provenance


Meeting Minutes DRAFT

Meeting minutes for April 1, 2014 approved by WG


Mike showing thesaurus.com website

  • looking at CRUDEA - create, read, update, delete synonyms are reasonably orthogonal with each other (fairly pure in the thesaurus.)
  • in searching for some of the more arguemental words, why can't we accept some sort of thesaurus like this--this way we could eliminate some of the discussion.
    • update - had some interesting twists to it.
  • Kathleen - there has been some work already done in HL7; we may not want to delve too deep into this
  • Mike - would like to get out of the vocabulary business

Mike - we are looking to define a process for terms, placing them in an ontology in the propoer place i.e.,

  1. identify a term
  2. write a definitions (for EHR, Security...similar to the RBAC)
  3. harmonize the conflict
  4. place in the ontology
  5. establish in the parent-child relationships
  6. do the next term

lists steps, list inputs/outcomes in a repeatable process way where we will get the same answer again.

Scope Statement for Patient Natural Language - tabled

Scope Statement for Provenance

  • first meeting on the 10th, Thursday at 12Noon ET
  • has applicability in HL7, FHIR resources
  • ONC has asked HL7 to create a provenance IG (similar to DS4P IG)
    • goal date is for September 2014 ballot
  • ONC plans to provide for some resources to help us in this process(CBCC primary, Security co-sponsor)
    • if they have any ability to make changes for MU, they have to have this standard in place, to have it available in Oct, regarding provenance and reference this IG
  • in order to follow the process in HL7, have
  • ACTION: Draft Scope statement, get approval
    • Johnathan has clear ideas on what needs to go into the scope statement
    • Security will be participating and trying to see how that fits within the FHIR activities


ACTION: Mike to send e-mail to Johnathan to attend next meetings; Johnathan will be leading this project and should be listed as so in the scope statement.

FHIR

  • idea from Ken Rubin (on co-chair list)
  • looking for nominations for proposals for the Discovery Day for FHIR/SOA
    • we have a relationship because of the SLS and we have done some demonstrations.
    • Mike has an idea that Duane come in and make a proposal for presentation where he would create connect-the-dots between SLS, FHIR and SOA
    • since security meets regularly on Tuesday, we would have a representative present


Mind-Map