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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 
| width="0%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 
'''Location: <br>https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597''' <br/>(voice and screen)
 
'''Location: <br>https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597''' <br/>(voice and screen)
| width="0%" colspan="1" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2017-08-02 '''<br/> '''Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern'''
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| width="0%" colspan="1" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''Date: 2017-08-26 '''<br/> '''Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern'''
 
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|colspan="4" align="center" style="background:#f0f0f0;"| '''yes/no'''
 
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| Co chairs|| ||David Hay || ||Lloyd McKenzie
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| Co chairs|| ||David Hay ||x ||Lloyd McKenzie
 
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| ex-officio|| ||Lorraine Constable,<br/> Dave Shaver <br/>FGB Co-chairs||.||Wayne Kubick, CTO
 
| ex-officio|| ||Lorraine Constable,<br/> Dave Shaver <br/>FGB Co-chairs||.||Wayne Kubick, CTO
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| colspan="2"| Members ||colspan="2"|Members||colspan="2"|Members ||colspan="2"|Observers/Guests
 
| colspan="2"| Members ||colspan="2"|Members||colspan="2"|Members ||colspan="2"|Observers/Guests
 
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| || Hans Buitendijk|| ||Brian Postlethwaite  || ||Paul Knapp || || Anne W., scribe
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|Regrets || Hans Buitendijk||x ||Brian Postlethwaite  || x||Paul Knapp ||x || Anne W., scribe
 
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| ||Josh Mandel  || ||John Moehrke|| ||Brian Pech || ||  
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|x ||Josh Mandel  ||x ||John Moehrke||x ||Brian Pech || ||  
 
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| ||Grahame Grieve  || || || || ||.||<!--guest-->
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|x ||Grahame Grieve  || || || || ||x||Bob Thompson
 
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**Lloyd to put together a draft template for IG proposals and clean up some of the profile proposal template
 
**Lloyd to put together a draft template for IG proposals and clean up some of the profile proposal template
 
**Lloyd to coordinate with Ron Shapiro on turning QA spreadsheet and corresponding wiki pages into WG assessment/reporting tool
 
**Lloyd to coordinate with Ron Shapiro on turning QA spreadsheet and corresponding wiki pages into WG assessment/reporting tool
*Discussion topics  
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*Discussion topics
**Ballot processes
 
 
*Reports
 
*Reports
 
**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
 
**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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*Roll Call
 +
*Agenda Check
 +
**Add ballot processes to discussion
 +
**MOTION to approve: Grahame/John
 +
**VOTE: All in favor
 +
*Minutes from [[2017-07-26_FMG_concall]]
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**MOTION to approve: Paul/Brian Post
 +
**VOTE: All in favor
 +
*Action Items
 +
**Lloyd to put together a draft template for IG proposals and clean up some of the profile proposal template
 +
***Add to next week
 +
**Lloyd to coordinate with Ron Shapiro on turning QA spreadsheet and corresponding wiki pages into WG assessment/reporting tool
 +
***Ron has started; add update to next week
 +
*Discussion topics 
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**Ballot processes: Grahame reports that on Thursday, he became aware of a FHIR ballot that he was unaware of that was supposed to be published on Github (CDS Hooks). Paul notes it wasn't publishing that was approved, it was balloting that was approved. Grahame clarifies that you have to publish something to go to ballot. Need to determine if you can ballot on Github. The other problem is there is no copyright agreement with Boston Children's on CDS Hooks. Grahame has asked the NIB approval process to be modified to let the product director know about the NIBs. Will discuss publishing to Github at a later date. Paul notes that the PSS did not mention joint copyright so we should get that amended. Grahame notes this project will generate 3 or 4 ballot items, so perhaps that should also be included in the PSS. Paul: Appeared to be an omnibus PSS that would liaise with CDS Hooks. If you have IP or external arrangements, it should be called out in its own PSS. Timelines were also vague. Brian Pech notes that Lorraine Constable has been coming to EST calls for the last couple weeks to talk about the use of Github with CIMI. From an EST standpoint it's fine to talk about in terms of process. Grahame: 3 different ways you can use Github - 1) to manage source and content, 2) to publish content for discussion, and 3) for having the discussion. In FHIR we have quite a lot of content on Github but anything relating to ballot content has to be on HL7-managed Github. HQ has a process for keeping up with stuff in HL7 Github and making a synced copy in case of Github failure. Brian: The discussion at EST has been primarily related to non-FHIR material but there was brief discussion about FHIR material that needs to move to the HL7 Github.
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**Second issue is that the CDS Hooks guys (including Josh) would like to manage the ballot discussion on Github. Josh explains the benefits of doing so. It would be okay for STU ballots but Normative would require a GOM change. TSC would have to approve for STU. Will be asking TSC to approve for future ballots. Also need to discuss the potential of Jira.
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***ACTION: Anne to add to next week - discussion on publishing ballot content on Github
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***ACTION: Josh and Grahame to determine requirements for proposal to manage balloting on Github. Need to be sure everyone can participate, that there are continuity arrangements, that we know what the process will look like.
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*Reports
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
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***Nothing new. Will ask Mary Ann for update on numbers.
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**[[FHIR Governance Board|FGB]] –
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***No update
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**MnM –
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***Working through tracker items and taking quality criteria and turning them into a spreadsheet.
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**[[FMG Liaisons]] –
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***Paul reports they will be making changes to the financial Connectathon material so we can test the operations we're putting in.
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*Parking Lot
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**Paul to review STU FMM rationale and discuss with SGB
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***Reaching out to WGs for dates that they approved the items to go forward to STU. Won't be included in this audit, but need to have it cleaned up for the next one once the material goes normative.
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*Adjourned at 4:35 pm Eastern
  
  

Latest revision as of 20:35, 2 August 2017

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location:
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597

(voice and screen)

Date: 2017-08-26
Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Note taker(s): Anne W.
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs David Hay x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio Lorraine Constable,
Dave Shaver
FGB Co-chairs
. Wayne Kubick, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
Regrets Hans Buitendijk x Brian Postlethwaite x Paul Knapp x Anne W., scribe
x Josh Mandel x John Moehrke x Brian Pech
x Grahame Grieve x Bob Thompson

Agenda

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • Minutes from 2017-07-26_FMG_concall
  • Action Items
    • Lloyd to put together a draft template for IG proposals and clean up some of the profile proposal template
    • Lloyd to coordinate with Ron Shapiro on turning QA spreadsheet and corresponding wiki pages into WG assessment/reporting tool
  • Discussion topics
  • Reports
  • Parking Lot
    • Paul to review STU FMM rationale and discuss with SGB
  • Process management
  • AOB (Any Other Business)

Minutes

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
    • Add ballot processes to discussion
    • MOTION to approve: Grahame/John
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Minutes from 2017-07-26_FMG_concall
    • MOTION to approve: Paul/Brian Post
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Action Items
    • Lloyd to put together a draft template for IG proposals and clean up some of the profile proposal template
      • Add to next week
    • Lloyd to coordinate with Ron Shapiro on turning QA spreadsheet and corresponding wiki pages into WG assessment/reporting tool
      • Ron has started; add update to next week
  • Discussion topics
    • Ballot processes: Grahame reports that on Thursday, he became aware of a FHIR ballot that he was unaware of that was supposed to be published on Github (CDS Hooks). Paul notes it wasn't publishing that was approved, it was balloting that was approved. Grahame clarifies that you have to publish something to go to ballot. Need to determine if you can ballot on Github. The other problem is there is no copyright agreement with Boston Children's on CDS Hooks. Grahame has asked the NIB approval process to be modified to let the product director know about the NIBs. Will discuss publishing to Github at a later date. Paul notes that the PSS did not mention joint copyright so we should get that amended. Grahame notes this project will generate 3 or 4 ballot items, so perhaps that should also be included in the PSS. Paul: Appeared to be an omnibus PSS that would liaise with CDS Hooks. If you have IP or external arrangements, it should be called out in its own PSS. Timelines were also vague. Brian Pech notes that Lorraine Constable has been coming to EST calls for the last couple weeks to talk about the use of Github with CIMI. From an EST standpoint it's fine to talk about in terms of process. Grahame: 3 different ways you can use Github - 1) to manage source and content, 2) to publish content for discussion, and 3) for having the discussion. In FHIR we have quite a lot of content on Github but anything relating to ballot content has to be on HL7-managed Github. HQ has a process for keeping up with stuff in HL7 Github and making a synced copy in case of Github failure. Brian: The discussion at EST has been primarily related to non-FHIR material but there was brief discussion about FHIR material that needs to move to the HL7 Github.
    • Second issue is that the CDS Hooks guys (including Josh) would like to manage the ballot discussion on Github. Josh explains the benefits of doing so. It would be okay for STU ballots but Normative would require a GOM change. TSC would have to approve for STU. Will be asking TSC to approve for future ballots. Also need to discuss the potential of Jira.
      • ACTION: Anne to add to next week - discussion on publishing ballot content on Github
      • ACTION: Josh and Grahame to determine requirements for proposal to manage balloting on Github. Need to be sure everyone can participate, that there are continuity arrangements, that we know what the process will look like.
  • Reports
    • Connectathon management (David/Brian)
      • Nothing new. Will ask Mary Ann for update on numbers.
    • FGB
      • No update
    • MnM –
      • Working through tracker items and taking quality criteria and turning them into a spreadsheet.
    • FMG Liaisons
      • Paul reports they will be making changes to the financial Connectathon material so we can test the operations we're putting in.
  • Parking Lot
    • Paul to review STU FMM rationale and discuss with SGB
      • Reaching out to WGs for dates that they approved the items to go forward to STU. Won't be included in this audit, but need to have it cleaned up for the next one once the material goes normative.
  • Adjourned at 4:35 pm Eastern


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