20160531 arb minutes

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Agenda

1. Call to order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Agenda and WGM Minutes
4. Governance
5. Methodology (60 minutes)

1. • CIMI Proof of concept
     • Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
   • SAIF super light
     • We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
2. Other business and planning
   • Conformance Testing for ONC
3. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes Location: Telcon		Date: 20160531 Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator	Julian, Tony	Note taker(s)	Julian, Tony
Attendee	Name	Affiliation
X	Bond,Andy	NEHTA
X	Constable, Lorraine	Constable Consulting Inc.
.	Dagnall, Bo	HP Enterprise Services
.	Hufnagel, Steve	?????
.	Hyland, Mario	AEGIS
X	Julian, Tony	Mayo Clinic
X	Knapp, Paul	Pknapp Consulting
X	Kubick, Wayne	HL7 CTO
.	Loyd, Patrick	ICode Solutions
X	Lynch, Cecil	Accenture
X	Milosevic, Zoran	Deontik Pty Ltd
X	Stechishin,Andy	CANA Software and Service Ltd.
Guests
.	Nelson, Dale	Accenture
.	Grow, Richard	U.S. Department of Veterans affairs
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Legend
X	Present
.	Absent
R	Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Minutes

1. Approval of Agenda and WGM Minutes
   • Motion to approve (Lorraine/ Paul)
   • Vote 7-0-0
2. Governance
3. Methodology (60 minutes)
   • CIMI Proof of concept
     • Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
     • Lorraine: Using existing CIMI models - trying to map to Patient Care DAM, and how they would fit in the models. Providing direction on modeling, and relation across out standards.
     • Cecil: It is new - and it lack definition. Assume 'existing clinical requirements' : they dont say the requirements are the same. Guess they are from the V3 DAM. New ? models: If CIMI models they are a new product.
     • Paul: Output is models.
     • Wayne: Applied to any of the standards.
     • Lorraine: Generate FHIR profiles.
     • Paul: Not a different product
     • Lorraine: I went to the CIMI CQI project:
     • Cecil: How much of the EHR is ported to CIMI?
     • Lorraine: modeling to QICORE. Orthogonal to the rest of HL7 model. Suggest tht threads be gathered and coordinated.
     • Cecil: It is not new if it is a singular model, different if it crosses product families.
     • Paul: Not a new thing: Isnt the DAM across families?
     • Lorraine: Yes - one just finished ballot.
     • Paul: DAMS across families
     • Wayne: In Section 4 it appears that this would be logical models.
     • Andy B: There are fundamental different reference models from openehr. FHIR is a different model. The importance is the relationship to the DAMs. It is now HL7 work. What is the thread that brings the models under the HL7 Banner. It comes from a different modeling universe. FHIR is in an HL7 universe. It is a new variety of HL7 Model. The trick is to create legitimization, create Governance and consistency to bring it together.
     • Paul: More conceptual or concrete
     • Zoran: More concrete.
     • Paul: Can it be rendered into a family? Is it process for model, or rendering into content? How can these artifacts be rendered into families? Can we do so algorithmically?
     • Lorraine: Another project generating FHIR profiles - rule based, automatable
     • Paul: Elements mapped to FHIR models, consistency of meaning? Coming up with the models.
     • Lorraine: Relating models to DAMS, another project generating concrete content. Should we be involved for consistency? What is our position?
     • Paul: CIMI model definition or statement of ownership?
     • Wayne: Just a model - can be rendered in any family.
     • Cecil: I can render FHIR in multiple ways, but its still FHIR. Purpose to have decision support models.
     • Wayne: I hadnt heard of decision support.
     • Lorraine: They are working with CQI. Should we be involved, or let it run on its own.
     • Paul: Makes sense to observe - it might go off into its own space unnecessarily.
     • Lorraine: ARB monitor for coherence.
     • Wayne: Invite CIMI to a meeting.
     • Motion ARB be co-sponsor of the project, with periodic reports on progress what they are doing and where they are going.
     • Zoran: On this PSS only? Need to clarify bullet point "Demonstrate relationship between information models and logically computable expressions"
     • Motion to table (Paul/Lorraine)
     • Vote 7-0-0
     • Tony will invite CIMI representatives to the next call.
   • SAIF super light
     • We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
     • Lorraine: We have material, but not consumable by others?
     • Lorraine will dig through what we have, and find the gaps!.
     • Zoran: In doing so you will leverage your experience with ODL.
     • Zoran will help.
4. Other business and planning
   1. Finish Substantivity
   2. Finish withdrawal with PIC
   3. CIMI
      • Engage with Grahame on CIMI on FHIR
      • Engage Harold, Stan, or Jay on CIMI
      • Evaluate CIMI architecture
5. Adjournment