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==Agenda==
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==Agenda and Notes==
 
*Roll Call
 
*Roll Call
 
*Agenda Check
 
*Agenda Check
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**[[20151008_FGB_FMG_WGM]]
 
 
*Administrative
 
*Administrative
*Action items
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**Lloyd to review DSTU QA page for completeness against the QA spreadsheet 
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*Discussion Topics
 
*Discussion Topics
**Candidate patch changes
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**Device [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/device.html]
**FMM wiki should be explicit that FMM0 = draft and that normative is a level that comes after FMM5
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** [http://wiki.hl7.org/images/2/24/Harmonization_Pattern_for_Unique_Device_Identifiers_20141113.pdf HL7 Whitepaper on UDI]
**Need to clearly document the rules for checking "experimental" content
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***Mapping to UDI and MU 2015
**Timeline for DSTU 2.1
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****[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119Y548yj3ZWeDvp3v0EvzG78eVpKxWGqCSh0NPAzLyA/edit?usp=sharing Spreadsheet mapping across standards and MU]
**Confirmation of frozen resources
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****Review guidance in notes and element comments and whether need to clearly point to what gos where in core or leave it to profile since I am unclear on whether the 6 parts are US Realm specific.
*Resource Review
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****Do we need a resource for HCT/Ps  or create an extension for the DIN?
**Sequence resource: [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Sequence_FHIR_Resource_Proposal Sequence FHIR Resource Proposal]
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****MU mentions additional stuff that patients will have access to. - Extension candidates?
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§ 170.315 2015 Edition health IT certification criteria.
 +
... (pp 515ff)
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(14) Implantable device list.
 +
(i) Record Unique Device Identifiers associated with a patient’s Implantable Devices.
 +
(ii) Parse the following identifiers from a Unique Device Identifier:
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(A) Device Identifier;
 +
(B) The following identifiers that compose the Production Identifier:
 +
(1) The lot or batch within which a device was manufactured;
 +
(2) The serial number of a specific device;
 +
(3) The expiration date of a specific device;
 +
(4) The date a specific device was manufactured; and
 +
(5) For an HCT/P regulated as a device, the distinct identification code required by 21 CFR1271.290(c).
 +
(iii) Obtain and associate with each Unique Device Identifier:
 +
(A) A description of the implantable device referenced by at least one of the following:
 +
(1) The “GMDN PT Name” attribute associated with the Device Identifier in the Global Unique Device Identification Database.
 +
(2) The “SNOMED CT® Description” mapped to the attribute referenced in paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A)(1) of this section.
 +
(B) The following Global Unique Device Identification Database attributes:
 +
'''(1) “Brand Name”;'''
 +
(2) “Version or Model”;
 +
(3) “Company Name”;
 +
'''(4) “What MRI safety information does the labeling contain?”; and'''
 +
'''(5) “Device required to be labeled as containing natural rubber latex or dry natural rubber (21 CFR 801.437).”'''
 +
(iv) Display to a user an implantable device list consisting of:
 +
(A) The active Unique Device Identifiers recorded for a patient; and
 +
(B) For each active Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient, the description of the implantable device specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A) of this section.
 +
(C) A method to access all Unique Device Identifiers recorded for a patient.
 +
(v) For each Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient, enable a user to access:
 +
(A) The Unique Device Identifier;
 +
(B) The description of the implantable device specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A) of this section;
 +
(C) The identifiers associated with the Unique Device Identifier, as specified by paragraph (a)(14)(ii) of this section;
 +
(D) The attributes associated with the Unique Device Identifier, as specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(B) of this section.
 +
(vi) Enable a user to change the status of a Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient.
 +
 
 +
 
 +
==Tracker comments==
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===Updated based on OO on FHIR discussion 20151022===
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8925 8925] add UDI string HRF formats to Identifer type codes (None) None
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8929 8929] extensions for GUDID data elements (None) None
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=5985 5985] Suggest that if a UDI is present that it alone be recorded, and other values be recorded when there is not UDI present (Eric Haas) Not Persuasive
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=5507 5507] Jan 2015 Ballot Comment #444 (Leslie Tompkins) Not Persuasive with Mod
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8926 8926] Provide Clearer guidance for UDI components (None) Persuasive
 +
*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8927 8927] Clarify Device scope in introduction (None) Persuasive
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=5623 5623] scope and boundary between device and b/t/o, (Eric Haas) Persuasive with Mod
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=7254 7254] 2015May core #373 - UDI doesn't identify repository/jurisdiction (Paul Knapp) Persuasive with Mod '''In Person'''
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*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8928 8928] W5 Mapping and reordering of device (None) Persuasive with Mod
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==QA issues: possible assignments==
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[[DSTU_QA_Guidelines]]
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QA spreadsheet [https://docs.google.com/a/lmckenzie.com/spreadsheets/d/18HfXF7mUCUV7jACCG0oejFp6D-ibtvbmcgywNhn76lw]
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==Resource Review==
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<!--
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**Observation resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/observation.html]
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**DiagnosticReport resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/diagnosticreport.html]
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**DiagnosticOrder resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/diagnosticorder.html]
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**Specimen resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/specimen.html]
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**NutritionOrder resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/nutritionorder.html]
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**DataElement resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/dataelement.html]
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**Device resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/device.html]
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**Substance resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/substance.html]
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**SupplyRequest resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/supplyrequest.html]
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**SupplyDelivery resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/supplydelivery.html]
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**Order resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/order.html]
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**OrderResponse resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/orderresponse.html]
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**BodySite resource: [http://hl7-fhir.github.io/bodysite.html]
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==Profile Review==
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**USLab resource: [http://hl7.org/fhir/uslab/uslab.html]
 
**Genetics profile: [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Genetics_FHIR_Profile_Proposal#Standard_Genetics_Profile Standard Genetics Profile]
 
**Genetics profile: [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=Genetics_FHIR_Profile_Proposal#Standard_Genetics_Profile Standard Genetics Profile]
*Project Approvals
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**SDC FHIR profile:[http://hl7.org/fhir/sdcde/sdcde.html]
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/8855/13540/HL7%20Project%20Scope%20Statement%20FHIR%20Infrastructure%2020150924%202.docx Project Approval Request] of ''Develop and Maintain FHIR Infrastructure resources'' at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8855&start=0 Tracker 8855]
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**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/8856/13541/gao-pss.docx Project Approval Request] of ''Guideline Appropriate Ordering Profile'' at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8856&start=0 Tracker 8856]
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==Project Approvals==
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/8857/13542/HL7%20Project%20Scope%20Statement%20FHIR%20Security%2020151013%20Approved.docx Project Approval Request] of "Develop and Maintain Security Resources" at [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/tsc/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=8857&start=0 Tracker 8857]
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*Connectathon  
*Reports
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
 
**[[FHIR Governance Board|FGB]] –
 
**MnM –
 
**[[FMG Liaisons]] –
 
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*Process management
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==Process management==
**Ballot Planning
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==AOB (Any Other Business)==
<!--**Developing FMG Management Methodology - see [[FHIR Methodology Process]] and [[FHIR Guide to Designing Resources]]
 
**FHIR Design patterns - see [[FHIR Design Patterns]] -->
 
**Ballot content review and QA process [[FHIR QA Guidelines]]
 
*AOB (Any Other Business)
 
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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|colspan="4" |'''Actions''' ''(Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)''<br/>
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[[2015mmdd FMG concall]]
 
 
 
 
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Latest revision as of 01:31, 23 October 2015

HL7 OO on FHIR (for Orders and Observations)

Call in details:
Phone: +1 770-657-9270, Passcode: 398652

Join the meeting at:
https://join.me/vernetzt.us

Date: 2015-10-22
2015 - 02:00 PM (Eastern Time, GMT -04 DST)
Chair: Note taker(s): EH:
Quorum = chair + 4 no
Co chairs Riki Merrick Rob Hausam Lorraine Constable Patrick Lloyd Ken McKaslin Hans Buitendijk
Fhir Editor/Facilitator Eric Haas
Attendees
Hans Buitendijk
Bill Gregory - Pfizer Rob Hausam Eric Haas
.

Agenda and Notes

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • Administrative
  • Discussion Topics
    • Device [1]
    • HL7 Whitepaper on UDI
      • Mapping to UDI and MU 2015
        • Spreadsheet mapping across standards and MU
        • Review guidance in notes and element comments and whether need to clearly point to what gos where in core or leave it to profile since I am unclear on whether the 6 parts are US Realm specific.
        • Do we need a resource for HCT/Ps or create an extension for the DIN?
        • MU mentions additional stuff that patients will have access to. - Extension candidates?


§ 170.315 2015 Edition health IT certification criteria.
... (pp 515ff)
(14) Implantable device list. 
(i) Record Unique Device Identifiers associated with a patient’s Implantable Devices.
(ii) Parse the following identifiers from a Unique Device Identifier:
	(A) Device Identifier;
	(B) The following identifiers that compose the Production Identifier:
		(1) The lot or batch within which a device was manufactured;
		(2) The serial number of a specific device;
		(3) The expiration date of a specific device;
		(4) The date a specific device was manufactured; and
		(5) For an HCT/P regulated as a device, the distinct identification code required by 21 CFR1271.290(c).
(iii) Obtain and associate with each Unique Device Identifier:
	(A) A description of the implantable device referenced by at least one of the following:
		(1) The “GMDN PT Name” attribute associated with the Device Identifier in the Global Unique Device Identification Database.
		(2) The “SNOMED CT® Description” mapped to the attribute referenced in paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A)(1) of this section.
	(B) The following Global Unique Device Identification Database attributes:
		(1) “Brand Name”;
		(2) “Version or Model”;
		(3) “Company Name”;
		(4) “What MRI safety information does the labeling contain?”; and
		(5) “Device required to be labeled as containing natural rubber latex or dry natural rubber (21 CFR 801.437).”
(iv) Display to a user an implantable device list consisting of:
	(A) The active Unique Device Identifiers recorded for a patient; and
	(B) For each active Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient, the description of the implantable device specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A) of this section.
	(C) A method to access all Unique Device Identifiers recorded for a patient.
(v) For each Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient, enable a user to access:
	(A) The Unique Device Identifier;
	(B) The description of the implantable device specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(A) of this section;
	(C) The identifiers associated with the Unique Device Identifier, as specified by paragraph (a)(14)(ii) of this section;
	(D) The attributes associated with the Unique Device Identifier, as specified by paragraph (a)(14)(iii)(B) of this section.
(vi) Enable a user to change the status of a Unique Device Identifier recorded for a patient.


Tracker comments

Updated based on OO on FHIR discussion 20151022

*8925 add UDI string HRF formats to Identifer type codes (None) None
*8929 extensions for GUDID data elements (None) None
*5985 Suggest that if a UDI is present that it alone be recorded, and other values be recorded when there is not UDI present (Eric Haas) Not Persuasive
*5507 Jan 2015 Ballot Comment #444 (Leslie Tompkins) Not Persuasive with Mod
*8926 Provide Clearer guidance for UDI components (None) Persuasive
*8927 Clarify Device scope in introduction (None) Persuasive
*5623 scope and boundary between device and b/t/o, (Eric Haas) Persuasive with Mod
*7254 2015May core #373 - UDI doesn't identify repository/jurisdiction (Paul Knapp) Persuasive with Mod In Person
*8928 W5 Mapping and reordering of device (None) Persuasive with Mod

QA issues: possible assignments

DSTU_QA_Guidelines QA spreadsheet [2]

Resource Review

Process management

AOB (Any Other Business)

Minutes

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Create examples using both UDI and 6 parts, and using both styles. -EH , by DSTU 3.0


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