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#Approve previous meeting minutes [[2015-12-10_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call]] | #Approve previous meeting minutes [[2015-12-10_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call]] | ||
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| + | Russell thought a new resource, PatientCareNote or HealthCareNote, is needed. | ||
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| + | Lloyd said clinical notes are a bunch of assertions that someone is making about something at a specific point in time, which is Observation. The Observation.value could be a valueString or valueAttachment (e.g. PDF). Observation.code.text could be used for title. Observations are rarely updated (unless prelim results --> final result; or, correcting error). Each new assertion is a new observation. | ||
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| + | Notes about leaving against medical advice could be an annotation on the encounter, because only relevant in context of the encounter. | ||
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| + | If there is no context, except the patient, then might consider episode of care (relationship between provider and patient) | ||
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| + | Flag could have an extension that points to the detail (e.g. observation, allergyintolerance). Flag can have an intended audience. When anyone dealing with the patient today needs to be aware of the topic, then use flag. | ||
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| + | Clinical notes as legal documentation -- contextual things that someone wants captured in the record to jog memory, justify actions, provide context (something written in chart). Not flagged in chart, just stuff being captured is more like an observation. | ||
=== gForge Change Requests === | === gForge Change Requests === | ||
| + | [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=6871| gForge 6871] <br/> | ||
| + | [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=6872&start=0| gForge 6872] <br/> | ||
| + | [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=7045&start=0| gForge 7045] <br/> | ||
| + | [http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=7185&start=0| gForge 7185] | ||
=== Adjourn === | === Adjourn === | ||
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==Meeting Outcomes== | ==Meeting Outcomes== | ||
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| + | * Russell will log gForge change request for Appointment to reference ClinicalImpression | ||
| + | * Russell, Michelle, and everyone else is welcome to compile a list of typical clinical notes to vet whether they fit the observation scope | ||
* Lloyd will talk to MnM about the possibility of renaming notes to annotation | * Lloyd will talk to MnM about the possibility of renaming notes to annotation | ||
* Everyone is invited to contribute examples to the [[Representing_Negation]] | * Everyone is invited to contribute examples to the [[Representing_Negation]] | ||
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Contents
Meeting Information
| Patient Care FHIR Resources Conference Call Location: Conference Call |
Date: 2015-12-17 Time: 5-6:30pm ET | ||
| Facilitator | Michelle M Miller | Note taker(s) | Michelle M Miller |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation
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| Elaine Ayres | NIH/Department of Clinical Research Informatics | ||
| X | Stephen Chu | ||
| X | Eric Haas | Haas Consulting | |
| X | Rob Hausam | Hausam Consulting LLC | |
| Laura Heermann-Langford | Intermountain Healthcare | ||
| X | Emma Jones | Allscripts | |
| X | Russ Leftwich | InterSystems | |
| X | Jay Lyle | Ockham Information Services LLC, VA | |
| Sarah Maulden | VA | ||
| Jim McClay | Univ of Nebraska Medical Center | ||
| X | Russell McDonell | Telstra Health | |
| X | Lloyd McKenzie | Gevity (HL7 Canada) | |
| Larry McKnight | Cerner | ||
| X | Michelle M Miller | Cerner | |
| Lisa Nelson | Life Over Time Solutions | ||
| Viet Nguyen | Systems Made Simple | ||
| Craig Parker | Intermountain Healthcare | ||
| Scott Robertson | Kaiser Permanente | ||
| Simon Sum | Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics | ||
| Iona Thraen | Dept of Veterans Affairs | ||
| Quorum Requirements Met: yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Agenda review
- Approve previous meeting minutes 2015-12-10_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call
- Motion: Jay/Emma Abstain - 1, Negative - 0, Approve - 4
- Prior Action Item Follow-up
- gForge change request
Supporting Information
DSTU 2.1 Timeline
FHIR Resources owned by Patient Care
- AllergyIntolerance (1) -- frozen
- Procedure (1) -- frozen
- Questionnaire (1)-- potential normative candidate
- Questionnaire Answer (1)-- potential normative candidate
- Condition (1) -- possible normative only if it doesn't have substantive changes after working through health concern, negation, and alignment with OpenEHR
- CarePlan (1) -- probably not enough wide spread implementation to be considered normative, but Lloyd will check with community to see if there are any planned implementations coming up in the next 18 months
- Goal (1) -- probably not enough wide spread implementation to be considered normative
- Referral Request (1)-- probably not enough wide spread implementation to be considered normative
- FamilyMemberHistory (2) genomics / Jonathan Holt – Vanderbilt - interested in contributing to this resource -- possible normative, but may not have wide spread implementation to be considered normative
- Procedure Request (2)
- Flag (2)
- ClinicalImpression (3)
- Communication (3)
- CommunicationRequest (3)
Note: Contraindication and Risk Assessment are owned by CDS, not Patient Care
Note: Substantive changes to frozen resources in DSTU2.1 are prohibited unless FMG explicitly approves the substantive change
Minutes
Prior Action Item Follow-up
Russell thought a new resource, PatientCareNote or HealthCareNote, is needed.
Lloyd said clinical notes are a bunch of assertions that someone is making about something at a specific point in time, which is Observation. The Observation.value could be a valueString or valueAttachment (e.g. PDF). Observation.code.text could be used for title. Observations are rarely updated (unless prelim results --> final result; or, correcting error). Each new assertion is a new observation.
Notes about leaving against medical advice could be an annotation on the encounter, because only relevant in context of the encounter.
If there is no context, except the patient, then might consider episode of care (relationship between provider and patient)
Flag could have an extension that points to the detail (e.g. observation, allergyintolerance). Flag can have an intended audience. When anyone dealing with the patient today needs to be aware of the topic, then use flag.
Clinical notes as legal documentation -- contextual things that someone wants captured in the record to jog memory, justify actions, provide context (something written in chart). Not flagged in chart, just stuff being captured is more like an observation.
gForge Change Requests
gForge 6871
gForge 6872
gForge 7045
gForge 7185
Adjourn
Adjourned at 6:36pm Eastern.
Meeting Outcomes
Actions
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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