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=Attendees to be updated=
 
=Attendees to be updated=
 
* John Hatem (Chair)
 
* John Hatem (Chair)
* Daniel (Epic)
 
 
* Jose Costa Teixeira  
 
* Jose Costa Teixeira  
* Scott Robertson
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* Michelle Miller
* Marla Albitz (Scribe)
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* Scott Robertson (Scribe)
  
 
==IHE Meeting in Amsterdam==
 
==IHE Meeting in Amsterdam==
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*** Who of the co-chairs can attend?   
 
*** Who of the co-chairs can attend?   
 
****Tom can attend.  
 
****Tom can attend.  
****Melva would need to justify the travel, active projects to engage with.  
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****Melva and Scott would need to justify the travel, active projects to engage with.  
 
****Marla, Michelle and John cannot attend.   
 
****Marla, Michelle and John cannot attend.   
 
****Tom suggested the possibility of an out of cycle meeting to justify the trip.  Another option is to dial in which is common for IHE.
 
****Tom suggested the possibility of an out of cycle meeting to justify the trip.  Another option is to dial in which is common for IHE.
 
*****Melva does not think calling in will work as the time difference.
 
*****Melva does not think calling in will work as the time difference.
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** Note that group can see the potential for the meeting, but need specific actions and outcomes
  
 
   Action item: John to socialize the idea of an out of cycle meeting for the IHE Amsterdam meeting.
 
   Action item: John to socialize the idea of an out of cycle meeting for the IHE Amsterdam meeting.
  
 
==FHIR Workflow Meetings Status==
 
==FHIR Workflow Meetings Status==
* Scott to provide an update on the progress of the FHIR Workflow meetings.  
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* Scott
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** FHIR workflow (and other FHIR calls) have been cancelled for this week - most key players at FHIR event in Europe.
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** essentially creating a new resource (family - request/response) that is the "action" to be performed
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* Jose
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** a resource, not an order, that is the workflow.  A consistent mechanism across all of the resources.
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** sent the current "what this group will resolve" document for this effor to the group
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ACTION:  Scott - find / asked for / create(?) a 1-pager explanation of what the business need and proposed solution.
  
 
==FHIR Ballot Discussion Items==     
 
==FHIR Ballot Discussion Items==     
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** I = Mappings
 
** I = Mappings
 
8778 – dosage based on body surface area  
 
8778 – dosage based on body surface area  
   Action item: #8778 John to find out the context and meaning of “mustUnderstand”. Will follow-up with submitter (Lee Surprenant).  John sent email to Lee on November 16, 2015.   
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   Action item: #8778 John to find out the context and meaning of “mustUnderstand”. Will follow-up with submitter (Lee Surprenant).  John sent email to Lee on November 16, 2015.  11/16 - email sent.  no response yet
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8442 – MedicationPrescription – clarify datewritten and prescriber – group discussed final decision noted in GForge item.   
 
8442 – MedicationPrescription – clarify datewritten and prescriber – group discussed final decision noted in GForge item.   
   Action item: Jose will take a look at this off-line (8442). Concerned about one-to-many relationship implied in solution. Will bring investigation conclusions back to group. Jose’s findings could impact 5827, 8276, 8378, 8526, 8783
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   SUPERCEDED Action item: Jose will take a look at this off-line (8442). Concerned about one-to-many relationship implied in solution. Will bring investigation conclusions back to group. Jose’s findings could impact 5827, 8276, 8378, 8526, 8783
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11/16 - When changes are applied, the original resource is not altered, the changes are incoproated into a clone of the original resource (with a relationship to the the original resource).  From the HFIR resource perspective, these are separated resources.  From the system perspective, there may only be a single "database entry" which is modified.  Getting difficult to keep track of the constructs and proposed solution.
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  Action item:  Jose will develop a resolution for consideration at the next call. Principly 8442, could impact 5827, 8276, 8378, 8526, 8783
  
 
  Action item: Marla to complete 7830 - consult with Mike Henderson
 
  Action item: Marla to complete 7830 - consult with Mike Henderson
COMPLETED Action item: Melva to update GForge to reflect Atlanta vote/approval.
 
COMPLETED Action item: Melva to update Gforge 8688
 
COMPLETED Action item: to compare the text attribute across all resources. John will pull the values into a spreadsheet for comparison at the next meeting.
 
  
 
* Timing discussion
 
* Timing discussion
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  COMPLETED Action item: Melva to enter change request to change examples to reflect this new timing data type change.
 
  COMPLETED Action item: Melva to enter change request to change examples to reflect this new timing data type change.
  Action item: Tom to review spreadsheet John forwarded on 11/9.  Tom volunteered on the 11/2 call to look at this.
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5925 & 8021 (grouping A)
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  Action item: Tom to review spreadsheet John forwarded on 11/9 .  Tom volunteered on the 11/2 call to look at this.
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Action item: John will review spreadsheet to see which resource elements/attributes may be affected.
  
 
==ListServ==
 
==ListServ==
 
No items this week.
 
No items this week.
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(None noticed by the attendees)
  
 
==ARB Project==
 
==ARB Project==

Latest revision as of 22:34, 16 November 2015

Attendees to be updated

  • John Hatem (Chair)
  • Jose Costa Teixeira
  • Michelle Miller
  • Scott Robertson (Scribe)

IHE Meeting in Amsterdam

  • Joint out of cycle meeting with IHE and IG Rx group
    • Group to decide if Rx WG would travel to Amsterdam to participate.
      • Who of the co-chairs can attend?
        • Tom can attend.
        • Melva and Scott would need to justify the travel, active projects to engage with.
        • Marla, Michelle and John cannot attend.
        • Tom suggested the possibility of an out of cycle meeting to justify the trip. Another option is to dial in which is common for IHE.
          • Melva does not think calling in will work as the time difference.
    • Note that group can see the potential for the meeting, but need specific actions and outcomes
 Action item: John to socialize the idea of an out of cycle meeting for the IHE Amsterdam meeting.

FHIR Workflow Meetings Status

  • Scott
    • FHIR workflow (and other FHIR calls) have been cancelled for this week - most key players at FHIR event in Europe.
    • essentially creating a new resource (family - request/response) that is the "action" to be performed
  • Jose
    • a resource, not an order, that is the workflow. A consistent mechanism across all of the resources.
    • sent the current "what this group will resolve" document for this effor to the group
ACTION:  Scott - find / asked for / create(?) a 1-pager explanation of what the business need and proposed solution.

FHIR Ballot Discussion Items

  • GROUPING ADDED
    • A = Dosage Related
    • B = Terminology
    • C = Misc
    • D =
    • E = Examples
    • F = Multiple indications/reason for order
    • G = Status
    • H = Medication Related
    • I = Mappings

8778 – dosage based on body surface area

 Action item: #8778 John to find out the context and meaning of “mustUnderstand”. Will follow-up with submitter (Lee Surprenant).   John sent email to Lee on November 16, 2015.  11/16 - email sent.  no response yet

8442 – MedicationPrescription – clarify datewritten and prescriber – group discussed final decision noted in GForge item.

 SUPERCEDED Action item: Jose will take a look at this off-line (8442). Concerned about one-to-many relationship implied in solution. Will bring investigation conclusions back to group. Jose’s findings could impact 5827, 8276, 8378, 8526, 8783

11/16 - When changes are applied, the original resource is not altered, the changes are incoproated into a clone of the original resource (with a relationship to the the original resource). From the HFIR resource perspective, these are separated resources. From the system perspective, there may only be a single "database entry" which is modified. Getting difficult to keep track of the constructs and proposed solution.

 Action item:  Jose will develop a resolution for consideration at the next call. Principly 8442, could impact 5827, 8276, 8378, 8526, 8783
Action item: Marla to complete 7830 - consult with Mike Henderson
  • Timing discussion
    • how to represent "to be taken 10 minutes before meal"
    • DSTU2 guidance still incorrect (verified during call)
    • handled by change request # 8697
      • adding new offset guidance to handle this.
      • targeted for DSTU 2.1
COMPLETED Action item: Melva to enter change request to change examples to reflect this new timing data type change.

5925 & 8021 (grouping A)

Action item: Tom to review spreadsheet John forwarded on 11/9 .  Tom volunteered on the 11/2 call to look at this.
Action item: John will review spreadsheet to see which resource elements/attributes may be affected.

ListServ

No items this week. (None noticed by the attendees)

ARB Project

  • ARB update – NO meeting this past week - November 12, 2015.
  • Link to meeting minutes: https://goo.gl/7qjwNe

Other business

Action Item COMPLETED: Melva to reach out to Kai on his Art Décor v3 entries.
Action Item: Marla to enter change request for RXA-25 v2 FHIR mapping issue.
Action Item: Reach out to Mike Henderson and Jose about final touches to the v2-FHIR mappings (perhaps even outside of the FHIR resources)

Next meeting

  • Monday November 23, 2015 at 4pm Eastern
  • Agenda Items
    • IHE meeting in Amsterdam
    • ListServ Issues
    • ARB Project Update
    • FHIR Workflow Update
    • FHIR gForge Pharmacy Items
    • AOB