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| width="0%" colspan="2" align="left" style="background:#f0f0f0;"|'''HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes''' <br/>
 
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'''Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#'''<br>https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/450662277
 
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| ||Lorraine Constable|| ||Paul Knapp|| ||John Moehrke|| || Lynn Laakso, scribe
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*Roll Call
 
*Roll Call
 
*Agenda Check
 
*Agenda Check
*Minutes from [[2013mmdd_FMG_concall]]  
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*Minutes from [[20131211_FMG_concall]]  
 
*Administrative
 
*Administrative
 
** Action items
 
** Action items
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***Need to combine criteria at [[FHIR Connectathons]] with [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Connectathon_Principle distinction of connectathon versus hackathon] and come up with process.
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***Paul/Lorraine/Brian will draft responsibilities around ballot, publishing levels, etc.
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***Hugh will take some excerpts from his presentation to HL7 UK and create a wiki page
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***Liaisons must also notify their groups that the RIM Mappings will be developed (mostly in the domain areas, not infrastructure) and may need their involvement or review 
 
*Reports
 
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
 
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*AOB (Any Other Business)
 
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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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*Roll Call
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*Agenda Check - Brian has PSS, Lloyd will address QA, Austin will describe findings from yesterday's FGB. John/Lorraine move approval; unanimously approved.
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*Minutes from [[20131211_FMG_concall]]; John/ Josh move approval; Lorraine abstains - approved 6/0/1
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*Administrative
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** Action items
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***Need to combine criteria at [[FHIR Connectathons]] with [http://wiki.ihe.net/index.php?title=Connectathon_Principle distinction of connectathon versus hackathon] and come up with process. John has received no comments. Hugh, for one, still intends to review.
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***Paul/Lorraine/Brian will draft responsibilities around ballot, publishing levels, etc. Brian reports they have a publishing PSS drafted. It is complementary to the Tooling project for maintaining FHIR tooling. May need to include in PSS to call out coordination of new resources developed with the various WGs involved. Lloyd notes we need some policy processes for FGB/FMG/Pub/Tooling roles and responsibilities - Lorraine notes those are set outside this group and outside the scope of the PSS. Austin suggests some accompanying questions to the TSC as the FGB has not been able to meet regularly with the availability of the chair. Meanwhile Lloyd suggests Paul, Brian and Lorraine draft some suggested policy points for review by FMG in January (8th?) and forward to FGB or TSC. Lorraine moves approval with a Project facilitator to be forwarded to the sponsoring WGs, seconded by Paul. Brian volunteers as PF. Josh abstains, approved 6/0/1
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***Hugh will take some excerpts from his presentation to HL7 UK and create a wiki page; outstanding
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***Liaisons must also notify their groups that the RIM Mappings will be developed (mostly in the domain areas, not infrastructure) and may need their involvement or review 
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*Reports
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian) announcements to go out in eNews this week. Lorraine asks how registrations are going (9 participants so far); space was requested for 90 participants so space is not thought to be an issue.
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**[[FHIR Governance Board|FGB]] – TSC approved delegation of authority to FMG for final approval of reconciliation subject to criteria set by FGB. FGB set criteria that a WG must vote on reconciliations (not core team). Lloyd notes the FMG need to post reconciliation package (and request withdrawals) the week of the 29th. We might need to have an e-vote over the holidays.  This does not have to be done in conjunction with the content changes. Austin reminds the FMG that once extracted and posted to the HL7 website, the google docs version loses official standing - the ballot desktop is the 'source of truth'. Lloyd will remove edit privileges for the google docs. If QA reveals a need to change, then FMG must vote to reopen reconciliation the items must go back to the WGs for vote again, notes Austin.
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***Decision criteria whether to bring it back to another ballot reviewed. Pending the final reconciliation package, the approach to going to second ballot contingent on receiving a sufficient number of withdrawals needs to be affirmed in a motion. There will be a two week period for (peer) review and comment on that reconciliation. While reconciliation has identified significant substantive change, DSTU can be published without going back to ballot. FMG will attempt to get sufficient negatives withdrawn such that DSTU publication is permitted; if sufficient negative withdrawals are not obtained another ballot will be pursued. Hugh will compose the text of an e-vote to be sent out for this motion.
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*No meeting the next two weeks; conversation on Skype chat.
  
  
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[[20140108 FMG concall]]
  
 
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Latest revision as of 19:08, 18 December 2013

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/450662277

Date: 2013-12-18
Time: 1:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Lloyd Note taker(s): Lynn
Quorum = chair + 4 yes
Co chairs x Hugh Glover x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio Ron Parker, FGB Chair . John Quinn, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
x Lorraine Constable x Paul Knapp x John Moehrke x Lynn Laakso, scribe
x David Hay x Josh Mandel x Brian Pech x Austin Kreisler
.

Agenda

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • Minutes from 20131211_FMG_concall
  • Administrative
    • Action items
      • Need to combine criteria at FHIR Connectathons with distinction of connectathon versus hackathon and come up with process.
      • Paul/Lorraine/Brian will draft responsibilities around ballot, publishing levels, etc.
      • Hugh will take some excerpts from his presentation to HL7 UK and create a wiki page
      • Liaisons must also notify their groups that the RIM Mappings will be developed (mostly in the domain areas, not infrastructure) and may need their involvement or review
  • Reports
  • review Technology and extension registry project (Lorraine) - need to identify a lead other than Grahame for backup
  • Process management
    • Ballot Planning
  • AOB (Any Other Business)

Minutes

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check - Brian has PSS, Lloyd will address QA, Austin will describe findings from yesterday's FGB. John/Lorraine move approval; unanimously approved.
  • Minutes from 20131211_FMG_concall; John/ Josh move approval; Lorraine abstains - approved 6/0/1
  • Administrative
    • Action items
      • Need to combine criteria at FHIR Connectathons with distinction of connectathon versus hackathon and come up with process. John has received no comments. Hugh, for one, still intends to review.
      • Paul/Lorraine/Brian will draft responsibilities around ballot, publishing levels, etc. Brian reports they have a publishing PSS drafted. It is complementary to the Tooling project for maintaining FHIR tooling. May need to include in PSS to call out coordination of new resources developed with the various WGs involved. Lloyd notes we need some policy processes for FGB/FMG/Pub/Tooling roles and responsibilities - Lorraine notes those are set outside this group and outside the scope of the PSS. Austin suggests some accompanying questions to the TSC as the FGB has not been able to meet regularly with the availability of the chair. Meanwhile Lloyd suggests Paul, Brian and Lorraine draft some suggested policy points for review by FMG in January (8th?) and forward to FGB or TSC. Lorraine moves approval with a Project facilitator to be forwarded to the sponsoring WGs, seconded by Paul. Brian volunteers as PF. Josh abstains, approved 6/0/1
      • Hugh will take some excerpts from his presentation to HL7 UK and create a wiki page; outstanding
      • Liaisons must also notify their groups that the RIM Mappings will be developed (mostly in the domain areas, not infrastructure) and may need their involvement or review
  • Reports
    • Connectathon management (David/Brian) announcements to go out in eNews this week. Lorraine asks how registrations are going (9 participants so far); space was requested for 90 participants so space is not thought to be an issue.
    • FGB – TSC approved delegation of authority to FMG for final approval of reconciliation subject to criteria set by FGB. FGB set criteria that a WG must vote on reconciliations (not core team). Lloyd notes the FMG need to post reconciliation package (and request withdrawals) the week of the 29th. We might need to have an e-vote over the holidays. This does not have to be done in conjunction with the content changes. Austin reminds the FMG that once extracted and posted to the HL7 website, the google docs version loses official standing - the ballot desktop is the 'source of truth'. Lloyd will remove edit privileges for the google docs. If QA reveals a need to change, then FMG must vote to reopen reconciliation the items must go back to the WGs for vote again, notes Austin.
      • Decision criteria whether to bring it back to another ballot reviewed. Pending the final reconciliation package, the approach to going to second ballot contingent on receiving a sufficient number of withdrawals needs to be affirmed in a motion. There will be a two week period for (peer) review and comment on that reconciliation. While reconciliation has identified significant substantive change, DSTU can be published without going back to ballot. FMG will attempt to get sufficient negatives withdrawn such that DSTU publication is permitted; if sufficient negative withdrawals are not obtained another ballot will be pursued. Hugh will compose the text of an e-vote to be sent out for this motion.
  • No meeting the next two weeks; conversation on Skype chat.


Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Hugh will compose the text of an e-vote to be sent out for this motion.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

20140108 FMG concall


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