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The PAWG has agreed to review the current v3 models to try to determine the "core" elements, then compare with the current FHIR model, at which time we will ask for participation of the FHIR modelers to get a perspective as to why elements were included and why not. <br/> | The PAWG has agreed to review the current v3 models to try to determine the "core" elements, then compare with the current FHIR model, at which time we will ask for participation of the FHIR modelers to get a perspective as to why elements were included and why not. <br/> | ||
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Revision as of 22:24, 15 May 2012
Patient Administration Work Group Minutes - Tuesday May 15, 2012
Tuesday Q1
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Pavilion Ballroom B |
Date: 2012-05-15 Time: Tuesday Q1 | ||
| Facilitator | Alex de Leon | Note taker | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente | |
| X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
| X | Iryna Roy | HL7 Canada | |
| X | Barry Guinn | EPIC | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Y | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- V3 Work - Harmonization of Encounter and Care Provision models (joint with/hosted by Patient Care)
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Irma, who is heading the effort to harmonize the Patient Care Care Provision Model and the Patient Administration, Encounter Model, along with the PAWG reviewed the PA submitted reconciliation comments along with the issues identified during Q4 yesterday.
Meeting Outcomes
| Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Tuesday Q2
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room #2761 |
Date: 2012-05-15 Time: Tuesday Q2 | ||
| Facilitator | Irma Jongeneel | Note taker | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Iryna Roy | HL7 Canada | |
| X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
| X | Barry Guinn | EPIC | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente | |
| X | Oyvind Aassve | HL7 Norway | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Y/N | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- V3 Work - Encounter ballot reconciliation
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
The WG reviewed the last quarter work with the Patient Care Workgroup. Most of the issue items along with the comments in the ballot spreadsheet were accepted. The item that caused some discussion was the inclusion of priority to add to the sequelTo.
It was clarified that the use cases was that we need admission and discharge primary/secondary diagnosis together.
Meeting Outcomes
| Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
|
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Tuesday Q3
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room #2761 |
Date: 2012-05-15 Time: Tuesday Q3 | ||
| Facilitator | Alex de Leon | Note taker | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
| X | Iryna Roy | HL7 Canada | |
| X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
| X | Barry Guinn | EPIC | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente | |
| X | Oyvind Aassve | HL7 Norway | |
| X | Graham Grieve | ||
| X | Ewout Kramer | Furore | |
| X | Norman Doust | Doust & Associates | |
| X | Nat Wong | HL7 Australia | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- FHIR Discussion - Next Steps
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Graham presented the recent history of FHIR and how it became a part of HL7. The Patient/Person resource was developed as an example of a resource to demonstrate his idea.
After reviewing the example for person, Irma suggested that we get a definition of what a resource is. It seems that the definition of a resource has not been clearly done.
Graham explained that a resource is a stand alone entity, separate from a transitional state, for instance.
The group continued to review the Person model which included relationships to qualifications, language and related person.
Graham continued to explain that there was a need, based on the lack of general support of V3, for a standard based on models that are easily implementable.
There were discussions about what FHIR is, what problems it solves, and the complexity involved in presenting an alternative in current HL7 standards.
Graham presented his stance on the considerations of HL7 standards use within his blog at:
www.heathintersection.com.au
Current asks for today is a project scope statement.
Graham also asked that the PAWG review what has been modeled for the following resources:
- Person
- Animal
- Organization
- Agent
- Patient
The PAWG has agreed to review the current v3 models to try to determine the "core" elements, then compare with the current FHIR model, at which time we will ask for participation of the FHIR modelers to get a perspective as to why elements were included and why not.
Graham considered that there might be a few more resources that the PAWG might consider such as:
- Encounter
- Admission
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
|
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
|
Tuesday Q4
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Room# 2761 |
Date: 2012-05-15 Time: Tuesday Q4 | ||
| Facilitator | Irma Jongeneel | Note taker | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Iryna Roy | HL7 Canada | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente | |
| X | Irma Jongeneel | HL7 Netherlands | |
| X | Barry Guinn | EPIC | |
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| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- PA DMIM for Patient - Dutch Use Cases
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
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Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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