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Patient Administration Work Group Meeting - Thursday January 19, 2012

Thursday Q1

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes'

Location: Regency East #3

Date: 2012-01-19
Time: Thursday Q1
Facilitator Ken Rubin Note taker SOA Scribe
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Aleksandar Bojicic Canada Infoway
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): N/A

Agenda

Agenda Topics
V3 Work - Interdependent Registries (hosted by SOA)

Supporting Documents

  • Interdependent Registries Ballot
  • Reconciliation Spreadsheet


Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Joint with SOA.

The SOA WG wanted to express a recent decision discussed earlier in their workgroup. Essentially, the SOA WG has formally stated that their role will be in an advisory capacity to other work groups, not technically "owning" any projects or work products, but advising in their capacity of SOA experts. This should not, however, effect the current relationship between the PA and SOA workgroups, as our work for the Interdependent Registries has been one of PA owning the content, while SOA advises on the services aspect of the work.

Moving forward, the SOA WG requested an overview of the Interdependent Registries project. Aleksandar presented the Canada Infoway architectural blueprint. The SOA WG, in listening to their proposed implementation, encouraged a clarification of business relationships. They strongly suggested additional text to assign appropriate responsibility to the process of setting up an interdependent registries, stating that the model should include governance entities of responsibility. They stated that their should be an answer to "How does my “trust model” work?"

Later, discussions were had around the definition of directory and registry.

In reviewing the Interdependent Registries DAM, the SOA WG suggested that higher level use cases be defined for the overall effort, that then would lead to the use cases for the individual registries. As it stands now the use cases define lower level activities, without really defining the overall goal of the project.

This is a good suggestion that will be brought back to PA.

Action Item: Suggest to the PAWG the addition of "higher level" use cases that address the project objectives for Interdependent Registries. Responsible person: Alex de Leon

The chair of the SOA WG (Ken Rubin) having met with Patient Care, suggested to the PAWG that perhaps some thought should be given to a scheduling service, as there seems to be some discussion in the Patient Care WG regarding such a need. As of now, the chair is merely giving the WG a "heads up". This will be taken back to the PAWG.

In closing, the SOA WG requested a PAWG presence on a roughly once a month call, to give a status on the shared work, which at this time, only includes the interdependent registry project.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • Action Item: Suggest to the PAWG the addition of "higher level" use cases that address the project objectives for Interdependent Registries. Responsible person: Alex de Leon.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Thursday Q2

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Suite Parlor # 1110, 1st Floor, Royal Palm Tower

Date: 2011-05-19
Time: Thursday Q2
Facilitator Jay Zimmerman Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Jay Zimmerman Canada Infoway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Helen Drijfhout-Wisse HL7 Netherlands
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Norman Doust Doust Associates
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics
V3 Work - Interdependent Registries (hosted by SOA)

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG first decided to hande the items for which quorum was not reached on monday.

The joint WGs continued with the interdependent registries ballot reconciliation. The group then discussed next steps. There was consideration to have a DSTU in the next cycle and 2 normative cycles to meet Canada Infoway’s requirements. The proposal was made to try to address this between this WGM and the September Meeting of this year. There is also a possibility that PA will be balloting the messaging standard, so considerations will have to be made to have these progress in unison.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • The charter will be updated by chair and submitted to the TSC for approval.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Thursday Q3

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Suite Parlor # 1110, 1st Floor, Royal Palm Tower

Date: 2011-05-19
Time: Thursday Q3
Facilitator Jay Zimmerman Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Jay Zimmerman Canada Infoway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Helen Drijfhout-Wisse HL7 Netherlands
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Norman Doust Doust Associates
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics
V3 Work - Interdependent Registries.

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG moved on to reconciling the v3 Encounters ballot (recon_v3_pa_r2_encounter_r1_d1_2011may.xlsx) .

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • .
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Thursday Q4

HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes

Location: Suite Parlor # 1110, 1st Floor, Royal Palm Tower

Date: 2011-05-19
Time: Thursday Q4
Facilitator Jay Zimmerman Note taker Alex de Leon
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Jay Zimmerman Canada Infoway
X Alex de Leon Kaiser Permanente
X Helen Drijfhout-Wisse HL7 Netherlands
X Barry Guinn EPIC
X Norman Doust Doust Associates
X Corinne Gower HL7 New Zealand
Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 4 members): Yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics
Wrap up

  • Approve next ballot
  • Update work plan

Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

The WG moved on to reconciling the v3 Encounters ballot (recon_v3_pa_r2_encounter_r1_d1_2011may.xlsx) .

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • In reconciling the v3 Encounter Ballot, it became apparent that the PA WG will need to work closely with the PC WG to harmonize the encounter models.
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

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