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'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
 
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#Approve previous meeting minutes from [[2010-06-29 Online Presence Call Minutes]]
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#*Updated project scope for Online Presence including wiki template for WG home page and AUP - original at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1365/6733/HL7PSSES_OnlinePresence_v2_approved.doc, <br/> updates at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1463/7499/HL7PSSES_OnlinePresence_v3_2010Aug_clean.doc
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#Minutes of 6/29 Motion to approve by Bill, seconded by Dave, Ken, and Andy abstain; passed 5/0/2
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#* Report from Mike Kingery: I have not been able to make any progress with the MediaWiki upgrade. I am unsure at this moment if we will be able to upgrade before the WGM as there are two existing projects with a deadline of the WGM that have gained momentum and need to be completed before the WGM.
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#**Pages set up on the wiki should make available the information on what WG is the owner of that page, like a link to the WG page or WG leadership page. Revisit for a Work Group home page wiki template. Andy noted the dynamic use of Hot Topics, and heavy use of categories features of MnM are different from the way the Tooling pages are used, in a more static form. We may want to add this to the scope of the Online Presence project. This is not a significant change to the scope.  It would be offered as something useful, not a requirement.
 
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#New discussion: incorporate Electronic Services' three-year planning item # 197 HL7 Wiki Acceptable Usage Policy (AUP) into Online Presence Project. 
 
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#*Lynn will incorporate this into the project scope statement to update Project Insight.
 
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Meeting Information

HL7 ES Online Presence Project Meeting Minutes

Location: dial 770-657-9270 and enter pass code 988978#, GoToMeeting ID: 733-885-482

Date:2010-08-24
Time: 3 pm Eastern
Facilitator Lynn Laakso Note taker(s) Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name Affiliation
x Bill Braithwaite Anakam, ES
Josh Carmody HL7 Staff
Dave Hamill HL7 HQ, ES
regrets Mike Kingery HL7 HQ, ES
x Lynn Laakso HL7 HQ
Patrick Loyd GPInformatics, ES
Ken McCaslin HL7 TSS SD
Andy Stechishin Tooling co-chair
Additional participants are WELCOME!
Quorum Requirements Met: no

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Agenda review and approval
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes from 2010-08-10 Online Presence Call Minutes
  3. Agenda items from last meeting



Supporting Documents

Minutes

Notes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Agenda item from last meeting:
    • Report from Mike Kingery: I have not been able to make any progress with the MediaWiki upgrade. I am unsure at this moment if we will be able to upgrade before the WGM as there are two existing projects with a deadline of the WGM that have gained momentum and need to be completed before the WGM.
  2. Due to lack of quorum, we adjourned.
  3. Adjourned 3:10 PM EDT

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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