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The meeting was called to order at 8:30am by John Koisch with Tony Julian as the scribe.
    • Attendees: Mead Walker, John Koisch, Tony Julian, Abdul-Malik Shakir, Jane Curry
    • Visitors: Ed Larsen

8-10 - Conformance and Compliance, Conformance Models

  • Discussion was held concerning the caBIG ENterprise Integration Conformance and Compliance_016 document.
  • An enterprise can be depicted as a cloud, with exposed and unexposed services.
  • Multiple enterprises may overlap, with the exposed services being the intersection points.
    • Enterprise diagram-
      Enterprise cloud
      • WE know how to do this with the Internet/Intranet, and the boundaries.
      • WE do NOT know how to do this via systems or services.

















10-11 – Review of 2bBAM Modeling

  • Discussion was held concerning the role of the ARB in this endeavor. There is an understanding that this is the right group since the expertise is at the table.

11-1 – HL7 Enterperise Architecture Framework (HEAF)

(SOA Development Framework) Who are HL7's customers?

  • Anyone who benefits from or contributes to our interoperability specifications.
  • Indirect customers are
    • everyone who contributes to healthcare, keeping in mind that the definition of healthcare varies between jurisdictions.
    • Those who benefit by our production.
  • Direct customers are the people who contribute, either financially or otherwise.

What are HL7's "customers" asking ?

  • How to "govern" the specifications
    • How do I promote reuse
  • Means to reduce barriers to interoperability
    • Technical strategies
      • V2 vs V3
      • Messages vs Services vs CDA
    • Technical solutions
      • Something that can be implemented DSTU?
      • Sample content
  • Stability in the work products

What do "we"(HL7's) think our customers need?

  • Computable semantec interoperability(CSI)
    • We have not connected the dots between the benefits and work to get there.
    • We can achieve incremental benefit by reducing barriers to CSI
    • CSI is a goal that can be achieved
    • CSI is 'plug and play'
  • Guidance
    • Can I translate V2 to V3?
    • Implementation guides
  • Standards
  • Help
    • Are you ready?
    • Do you need an interface engine?
    • Education
  • Solutions that they can implement directly
  • Criteria for conformance
  • Coherent
  • Reuse
  • Flexibilty and stability

What of our customer needs are we willing, able, and prepared to provide(today)

  • We are not ready to provide implementable solutions
  • We may partner with others e.g. OMG

What preparations need to be made to enable us to meet customer needs and expectations as desired.(Future)

  • 2bBAM
  • articulation of a service specification
    • Content
    • format
    • processes
    • Actions/tools
  • conformance criteria /processes at the various levels
    • How do we express adherence
    • How do we assert adherence
    • How do we demonstrate adherence
  • Dynamic model
    • Orchestration or choreography
    • Leverage to business needs
    • Interactions/conversations
    • Application roles
      • Specialized for specific use cases?
    • Receiver responsibilities (Contract?)
    • Pre-conditions?

We should plan to evangelize to a list of groups, and seek their input.

    • Foundation Steering Division
    • Technical Services Division
    • Work groups as needed

1- 1:45 – lunch

2- 3 – Service Specifications, Conformance

  • Ed Larsen presented his suggestion to HITSP that HITSP adope a Services Based ENterprise Architectue to augment or replace its existing framework.
  • HITSP does not develop standards
  • Policy makers and industry create a use/modification request
  • Interpoerability Specification
    • Transaction package - set of transactions
    • Transaction components or standards
    • Component translates to payload
  • all derived from base standards.
  • Some have come into the Framework sideways, picking and choosing
  • Need to move framework into architecture
  • Need to define how far down the stack the conformance testing goes
  • HL7, CEN, and Eclipse are developing Services based architectures
  • Ed walked us through the IS01 HITSP spec (laboratory to EHR).

3-4 – 2bBAM modeling

4-5 – open discussion with Observers

Adjournment

Tony