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January 7, 2015 Education Telecon
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Attendees
- Melva Peters (Chair)
- Ken Chen (Scribe)
- Sharon Chaplock - HL7 Director of Education
- Mary Ann Boyles - HL7 Manager of Education
- Patrick Loyd - ICode Solutions
- Damien -
- Karen Van Hentenryck - Associate Executive Director
Quorum:
Meeting Agenda/Minutes
Draft Agenda for January 2015 WGM
- Melva has create the draft agenda for January 2015 WGM
- January 2015 WGM Education Agenda
- Please review the agenda and provide feedback.
Action item: Send Melva any other agenda items before the WGM
Request for HL7 Message List (Sharon)
- I’m new to using HL7 and am looking for a basic HL7 message list that defines each term. Like, A04= admit patient. Do you know if any guides like this are available?
- Individual was looking for and SME
- The material can be found in the V2 normative documentation
Certification exam questions based on current V2.x normative standard vs previous V2.5.1 and below
- US-centric MU vs current version (ie. 2.5.1 being more 'meaningful' in the US)
- Possibly combining multiple versions and creating a 'base' V2 certification exam.
- More discussion is needed from the listserv as this is a great discussion.
- Two issues, existing certification based on theory, and implementation
- Difficult to keeping track for all version and create new questions for all versions for the exam.
- Resources are limited for this and needs.
- Examples: HIMSS has criteria before you can take the certification exam.
Action Item: We will continue to keep the certification exam process as is and closing this item.
Request from HL7 Russia to have the CDA Certifcation exam translated into russian
- Would like to translate the CDA certification exam into russian
- Need and native russian resource for possible task
- Would need to be reviewed by the Certification task force before approval.
- Spain and other Latin American affiliates requested translation of the tests too.
- We do not want the affiliate to control the questions. We prefer less people to be in contact with the questions: only the test author and the Director of Education
- One of the reasons of going for electronic testing is avoiding leaking of questions. We had some incidents in the past.
- Resources are limited
- English has always be used for all examination
Action item: Sharon will find resources on who is willing to translate and the cost.
HL7 Learning Partner Proposal
- Waiting for proposal from Rene Spronk.
- Rene (Sept. 30) draft ready, pending review by potential educational partners. Will be submitted to Education after final tweaks.
- October 1: no discussion - waiting for proposal from Rene
- No information from Rene for this proposal
- October 15: Issue will be deferred until information is received from Rene.
- November 12: Deferred
Action: Melva to reach out to Rene to get a status
Tutorials
- SAIF Webinar
- will be recorded at the WGM
- Feb 5, 2014: Ron's day job interfered with his available time to record. He is looking to reschedule but no word yet.
- May 21, 2014: Ron still has not had the time to engage the SAIF Webinar
- June 4: No updates since last conference call, Melva will continue to follow up
- October 1, 2014: No update
- Patrick: We don't want to lose the knowledge for SAIF since it an important part of the standard
Action item: Melva follow up with Lorraine again about SAIF Webinar - email sent November 10 - Will be reviewed on ARB next week
Tutorial Planning
- Core tutorials on HL7 Standards, and have specialized tutorials alternated between WGM
- Start with the January WGM tutorials
- Rene Spronk has some draft stats on Education events that will be discussed in Chicago
- Continue discussion of stats that would be useful
- Education Offering Dashboard
- This was an action item allocated to me during the WGM in Chicago. The usefulness of the various metrics probably merits additional discussion. Once there is agreement on a 'starter set of metrics' we'll have to create a mechanism to actually get hold of them.
- Rene has created the statistics wiki page.
- Number that Rene has on the wiki is not consistent to the actual numbers
- Education Offering Dashboard
- Focus on HL7 HQ stats first and quality measures.
- Location included in the statistic as may impact attendance/participation
Action: Education WG Members to review Wiki page for next teleconference Action: Education WG Members are asked to send suggestions for other stats or types of stat to capture
Discussion of Certification Exams and Ed Summits
- v2 Workshop Project - no discussion
- Patrick will join an Education teleconference to discuss further
- October 1, 2014 - no discussion as Patrick not on call
- October 15, 2014 - Melva has reached out to Patrick without response.
- Diego has volunteers to take this on via email.
- Damian would be interested in participate.
- Patrick has a team discussing this project in the background.
- Unsure that there is the bandwidth due to other commitments
Action: Melva will followup for this V2 project and get more communication with others who are interested in moving the project forward
Updates to the Certification exams
- Sharon has analyzed the certifications and will need to possibly revise the questions.
- Sharon would like to create a taskforce to review the questions on the exams.
- Qualifications needed to be on the taskforce:
- The group will be comprised of volunteers from the tutorial speaker pool to review the certification exam
- Must have attended/audit the actual tutorial
- Must be approved by the Education Committee
- Qualifications needed to be on the taskforce:
- Sharon is working on an outline for a plan and guidelines for updates to existing and also for developing FHIR into a Certification Exam
- Will bring back more information after meeting with Melva, Sharon and Mary Ann in August
- Discussion of planning item back writing session during January 2015 WGM
- Difficult to pull in the resourses (SME) to find time to collaborate and focus on questions during WGM.
- Sharon would like to create a taskforce to review the questions on the exams.
Action: Sharon has drafted the process and will continue to work on the planning of a group to review the material. Action: Sharon will send new draft to the listserv.
Strategy for HL7 V2 Exam Updates
- Ted Klein presented on strategy for updating Control Specialist exam to V2.8
- will look at the statistics on the performance of the questions on the 2.7 exam and look at the non-performing questions and fix these ones
- Questions from Ted:
- update to V2.8, v2.8.1 or v2.8.2 -
- 2.8.1 has been balloted as normative
- will update to V2.8 - will avoid changes specific to 2.8.1 or 2.8.2 - Education WG agrees with this approach
- need to determine if in the future we want to want to certify to major releases or minor releases.
- Approach for updating the test
- 6 questions identified that could be added to the test (means 6 questions would be removed)
- 2 things to change/update
- 2 items to verify in existing questions
- update questions with incorrect answer rates > 66% and < 5%
- it was suggested that Ted is much more familiar with the exam and the standard and that if he believes these need to be changed, then do so
- it was suggested that the changes be vetted with Hans, Tony and Patrick
- suggested that the exam be reviewed with Sharon
- Total number of changes will be between 25-30 questions
- draft of changes to be done by the end of December 2014
- asked Ted to provide status in the New Year
- update to V2.8, v2.8.1 or v2.8.2 -
- Sharon has reviewed the changes with the committee before final version for the questions
- Sharon will do a beta test on the questions.
- PSS will need to update the course
Action item: Patrick will create a PSS for the new exams
MLM Certification
- Suggestion from Virginia for a certification test for "Medical Logic Modules"====
- Its very stable, self-contained, and people are hired as MLM developers. Several large EHR vendors use MLM as the way of programming custom CDS into their systems. We use it at NYP. A certification in this might look good on a resume
- Discussion: need more details and consider how it fits with Arden Syntax WG
Action item: Ginny will reach out to the Arden Syntax WG Chair to collaborate with this certification test. Action item: Ginny will try to invite them to the call.
- Peter Haig to join call to discuss
Webinar Planning for 2015
- Discussion of proposed webinar topics for 2015
- Melva has sent out an email to the list
- Sharon has received a comment request for FHIR tutorials
- Melva created a wiki page for Webinars topics and would like ideas for next year.
- Karen comments based on case studies as topics
- Sharon needs items/brainstorming on ideas.
- Creation of policy webinars in development for 2015
- Possibly having case studies
- Implementation case studies
- Taking this to the Co-chairs for feedback and looking for ideas
- FHIR webinar are being developed currently.
- Melva has sent an email to the Co-chairs for case studies and Sharon will include article/request in HL7 eNews
Action item: Sharon will ask International Council for webinar ideas Action item: Melanie will reach out to the affiliates as well to determine if they might be willing to advertise webinars
Current resources and reading material
- Will look at the list to determine how we can use it
- Ken is still working on a the list. As soon as it is completed, we will place it as an agenda item.
- Still compiling list but researching a possible open source library software called Koha. www.koha-community.org
- Ken Chen is still working on the resource list. Koha software has become an option with the latest version.
- Damian will be intested in helping.
- More time to focus on this item
Action: Ken will create the PSS for this resource list and present it to the WG
Transformation of Education WG
- Continue discussion of how we can transform Education WG
- Could consider transforming the Education WG to a Advisory Board.
- Trend over many years has been Up and down with the collaboration between HQ and Education Committee.
- Possible dissolve the Education WG and transform to a new entity.
- No board appointed co-chairs for WG anymore.
- Special topics for the WGM Luncheon to get more involvement.
- Slide deck for special topic for the WGM and advertise ahead for more interest.
Action: Agenda item on WGM, Karen will join to discuss what might be possible. Action: Continue discussion with Education WG transformation. Action: Add agenda item to work on a slide deck for WGM to attract new members Action: Consider special topics for teleconference and invite via eNews, etc
AOB
Next meeting
- Next meeting - Monday Q1 at WGM in San Antonio