MnM Minutes WGM 201301 Phoenix

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Sunday Jan 13 Q3

Attendees

Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Agenda

Establish Agenda for WGM from Hot Topics and FHIR Methodology Needs

Steps:

• Selected "Identifiers related to Social Media" and "Uncertainties around Procedure" for discussion in session on Q2 Thursday.
• Discussed Need for M&M Co-chairs to address the question of MnMs directions with regards to "new" Methodology Responsibilities. Will address at Lunch on Wednesday
• Verified Needs of FHIR for Methodology Sessions and Ballot Reconciliation Sessions and assigned these through the schedule.

Final Agenda was posted on Gforge and circulated by e-mail Sunday evening

Monday 1/14 Q1

Attendees

• Andy Bond (andy.bind@nehta.gov.au)
• Nat Wong (nwong@totalcare.net.au)
• Woody Beeler (woody@beeler.com)
• Rik Smithies (rik@nprogram.co.uk)
• Alexander Henket (alexanderhenket@enovation.nl)
• Ewout Kramer (ekramer@furure.com)
• Grahame Grieve (grahame@healthintersections.com.au)
• Dave Shaver (dave.shaver@corepointhealth.com)
• Yukinori Konishi (koni@kis-ihc.jp)
• Sakamu Takasaka (s.takasaka@gmail.com)
• Andrew Liu (aliu@infoway.ca)
• John Moehrkhe (john.moehrke@ge.com)
• Paolo Russian (paolo.russian@hosgroup.com)
• Saul Kravitz (skravtiz@mitre.com)
• Alex Zupan (alex.zupan@tbsgroup.com)

FHIR - Define Principles and Methodology Implications of:

Must Understand

After a discussion of the way mustUnderstand works, the following recommendations were made:

1. “mustUnderstand” should only be declared on an element whose meaning would reasonably affect the meanings of parent or peer elements. 2. It does *not* indicate any expectation that mustSupport is true for the element, nor should it be used a general purpose importance flag

The name "mustUnderstand" was discussed, and the subject was tabled on the basis that the name, definition and implications of mustUnderstand will be revisited subsequently (along with mustSupport).

Adopted: Grahame/Rik 15-0-0

Interversion Compatibility

• Let people know that we are trialing inter-version compatibility during the DSTU process
• No guarantee of consistency between DSTU versions while we work this out
• expectation of breaking changes between DSTU and Normative edition
• we will clarify the methodology implications through the DSTU process
• FHIR project team will draft working guidelines to test through that process

Adopted Grahame/Ewout 15-0-0

Default Values

• Default values are to not supported by the FHIR methodology
• if an element is labeled mustUnderstand, and the value is not explicit in the instance, or known by the context, the resource cannot be understood
• implementation guidance may need to discuss appropriate behavior in the context of absent values

Adopted: Grahame / Zoran 15-0-0

Element Naming Policies

Meeting adjourned at 10:30 with no time to consider element naming policies

Monday 1/14 Q2

Attendees

• Andy Bond (andy.bind@nehta.gov.au)
• Woody Beeler (woody@beeler.com)
• Zoran Milosevic (zoran@deontik.com)
• Rik Smithies (rik@nprogram.co.uk)
• Alexander Henket (alexanderhenket@enovation.nl)
• Grahame Grieve (grahame@healthintersections.com.au)
• Dave Shaver (dave.shaver@corepointhealth.com)
• Yukinori Konishi (koni@kis-ihc.jp)
• Sakamu Takasaka (s.takasaka@gmail.com)
• Andrew Liu (aliu@infoway.ca)
• John Moehrkhe (john.moehrke@ge.com)
• Paolo Russian (paolo.russian@hosgroup.com)
• Saul Kravitz (skravtiz@mitre.com)
• Alex Zupan (alex.zupan@tbsgroup.com)

IHE-related issues

Motion: 1. That a number of resources that are part of FHIR and owned by HL7 be identified as subject to shared management by IHE and HL7 2. These resources must enable the implementation of designated IHE profiles 3. Ballot disposition actions are not able to take actions inconsistent with this agreement 4. HL7 will publish a FHIR profile along with the resource that describes their use to implement IHE profiles 5. The resources will be balloted by HL7 using the standard process, though IHE menbers have the right to vote on these resources

This motion was referred to the FHIR management group for consideration.

In addition, a number of FHIR ballot comments were resolved: 661-664, and 670

Tuesday 1/15 Q1

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Tuesday 1/14 Q4

SAIF Artifact Definition Project

Deferred to SAIF Project Meeting Wednesday Q4. Session Cancelled

Wednesday 1/16 Q1

Host Joint with Vocabulary

• Harmonization
• IHTSDO Terminology Authority
• Core Principles Binding IDs for Code Systems & Value Sets

Wednesday 1/16 Q3

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q1

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q5

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Friday 1/18 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker