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HL7 project team meeting, 26 January 2012, 12:00 PM ET

Dial-in

Back to EMS DAM

Attendees

  • Jay Lyle, project manager
  • Sarah Ryan, terminology facilitator
  • Clem McDonald, Regenstrief Institute
  • Holly Miller, VA
  • Melanie Johnson, NLM
  • Jaci Phillips, MS RN, Regenstrief Institute
  • Clay Mann, NEMSIS

Agenda

  1. routes of administration
  2. DSTU change control
  3. DSTU work schedule

Minutes

Routes:

Mismatches for our EMS values include

  1. devices
  2. ambiguous terms (nasal and intranasal -- clarify with NEMSIS)
  3. things in SCT missing from FDA (intraosseous)
  4. things not modeled as a route in SCT or FDA (tracheostomy -- would it be considered endotracheal?)
  5. nulls ("other"--we will handle with a null flavor)

Options for devices

  1. Option 1: Use NEMSIS concepts. HL7 model demonstrates sufficient semantic elbow room. Make a NEMSIS a system or add to LOINC.
  2. Option 2: Constrain NEMSIS to routes of administration from FDA
  3. Option 3: Use NEMSIS concepts in interface, but support analysis by modeling semantic structure
    1. Option 3a: When EMT selects "endotracheal tube", write SCT code "endotracheal route," and create associated device class in clinical statement model for endotracheal tube
    2. Option 3b: When EMT selects "endotracheal tube", write SCT compositional expression "372452007 |endotracheopulmonary route|: 424226004 |using device|=26412008 |endotracheal tube, device|"
    3. Option 3c: When EMT selects "endotracheal tube", write NEMSIS code "endotracheal tube." Provide lookup table to expression: "endotracheal route using device = endotracheal tube"

Decisions

  • NEMSIS confirms a need for device information; we also need to conform to FDA to ensure interoperability.
  • We will adopt approach 3a using FDA rather than SCT. 3b still an option if we can work out the SCT/FDA issue
  • Clay and Jay will confirm NEMSIS requirements
  • Clay, Jorge (NEMSIS), and implementers will confirm technical approach
  • We still need an approach for intraosseous -- perhaps SCT

DSTU change control and schedule deferred to next meeting, in 2 weeks.

Issues

Issue Description Resolution Status
update vocabulary approach document open
PHIN VADS reassess plan to publish via PHIN VADS in light of LOINC/NLM/SCT approach open