2009-05-05 EA IP Advisory Group Call Minutes

TSC EA IP Advisory Group

Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 3 PM EDT (US Eastern Daylight Time, GMT -5)
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Agenda

1. Roll call:
   • Chair: Marc Koehn (Marc.Koehn@GPInformatics.com)
   • John S. Carter (jcarter@apelon.com)
   • Nancy Orvis (nancy.orvis@tma.osd.mil)
   • Ken Rubin (ken.rubin@eds.com)
   • Ed Tripp (Edward.tripp@estripp.com)
   • Lynn Laakso, HQ - scribe (lynn@hl7.org)
2. Agenda Review
3. Standing Agenda Items
   • No comments on previous meeting notes
   • Update on recent activities in Discussion of Breakout document
     • Sent out a few minutes ago to pass and cts2 alpha project, charter framework for alpha project consideration. Time challenged as some of them have resource through may 31st. Ioana may be able to get PASS work done in that timeframe. Will circulate as they come forward.
4. Current discussion topics
   • Enterprise Architecture Breakout group document discussion
     • Going to the breakout document: Nancy and Ken challenged us to look at the top-down architecture view. Took a subgroup discussion on a couple of Friday afternoons. Front matter for those not on EA IP advisory group calls who don’t share the context.
     • Ken walked us through the document:

       What do we mean by enterprise architecture and how rigorous a treatment do we wish to have. One end of spectrum in fully-funded, fully-staffed robust agency context, other side a cursory lightweight treatment. We are closer to lightweight than rigorous. Need documented and repeatable; HL7 POV has two benefits – most of the org doesn’t care about enterprise architecture ‘per se’ and are not architects. Also may focus on more appropriate impact rather than architecture for architecture sake.

       Concern as breakout group: recognize that we’re just trying to carry the ball down the field but not representative of larger group – a pre-alpha thing, brainstorming and some text.

       What are the objectives of the architecture revision, with this process – did the brainstorming. Covered a lot of ground in our first meeting. Then a notional process for how to accomplish it and what might be the milestones. Then, tried to develop short term game plan; immediate action plan for review today and going into Kyoto for those that are there can continue work in the spirit of the larger group’s intent.
       Also discussed: If we were to actually do the work, what might that look like? Education process, process facilitation, get our heads around what the problem was.

     • Ken reviewed Brainstorm Outcomes: look for input on have we met the 80/20 rule standards process, and objectives. Haven’t tried to sort it.

       These are reasons to improve core products and processes… if there’s anything that doesn’t make sense, more troublesome than if we missed something.

     • Nancy points out the coordinate with other SDOs point – doesn’t make sense if we’re talking about the EA. Should “make visible” our strengths and weaknesses, in order to clarify our offerings with respect to other SDOs, to coordinate in areas where they can do a better job.

       This bullet point will be hard to action, but that’s what Nancy wants to work on. What part of the health industry are we in? Health EDI? Clinical Research, we are *what, exactly, is this* in Healthcare?

     • Next section- Notional “Standards Process”: Marc asks: how do we model our business, even if we don’t know exactly what it is?
       Phantom framework allows us to begin an as-is and to-be description against that process.

       Ed suggests we should also measure the quality of the output, in addition to success of implementation. Measure “Fitness for use”.

     • Ken reviewed the milestones: not tied to dates at this time. Marc intends to review this on Saturday with TSC and further elaborate with Advisory Group in upcoming calls and meetings. Ed suggests we include the audience of the white paper. Intended is HL7 internal stakeholders.
     • John asks what is the approval of as-is architecture? Intent is to make sure key governance groups agree on ‘view of the world today’. Validate the way we’re documenting ourselves.
     • John suggests that the step 2 for walk through a project example it be an existing project, not an alpha project. Helpful to compare a piece of finished work done the ‘old way’. Review an old project for number of artifacts, how many months to develop, number of people, steps required, Use as education process, motivation for change process.
     • Ken suggests adding dimension of quality of product (# of known implementations within 12 months of publish, # of comments, # of votes non persuasive).
     • Marc continued on to Immediate Next Steps:

       Use the powerpoint mentioned on Q3 Wednesday at MayWGM.

     • Marc will be sending updates and revisions to the list

Adjourn 3:50 PM