2017-09 12 PA WGM Minutes
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Patient Administration Work Group Meeting - Tuesday September 12, 2017
Tuesday Q1
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Hyatt Regency, La Jolla, CA Studio Suite 410 |
Date: 2017-09-12 Time: Tuesday Q1 | ||
| Facilitator | Line Saele | Scribe | Alexander de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Line Saele | Helse Vest IKT Norway | |
| X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente, USA | |
| X | |||
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Coordination with FHIR Infrastructure
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Introductions
The WG presented the FHIR Ballot Prep website.
http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?itle-FHIR_Ballot_Prep
Ewout representing FHIR infrastructure discussed with the WG the different ballot process for FHIR artifacts.
He suggested to review this URL since it has milestones and timelines.
Brian noted that Datatypes should be included in the normative, since there are artifacts such as those that define/use ML, RESTful API, etc. since if these change, it is an impact to FHIR usage globally.
The WG discussed potential additions to the Priorities section. Organization seemed like a good candidate, but Brian noted that the organizational hierarchy has yet to be fully detailed out.
The WG looked at the 3 conceptual templates for Definition, Request and Event that can be used for resources that fit into these concepts.
There is a new list of quality criteria included in the URL that should be reviewed by the WG.
The WG discussed the tracker items and to consider which items (out of the current untriaged 44) can be discussed on telecons and which should be reserved for face-to-face discussions at a WGM. Irma suggested putting those items that should be discussed in person on the WGM agenda items.
Irma suggested that the WG identify tracker items that have vocabulary items for which our facilitator (Nancy) should be present.
The WG reviewed the milestone dates on the ballot preparation URL.
Brian asked if it was possible to change those artifacts that have historically been “frozen”.
The WG discussed the V2 to FHIR mapping. Kevan Riley from Inform has done some work to do this mapping but expressed some challenges with this. The most basic difference is that v2 is event-based while FHIR is more focused on data. Alex, who spoke about efforts within Kaiser Permanente to do just this, lost steam after encountering similar challenges, especially when financial management elements led to joint sessions with FM on concepts normally conveyed in an ADT message. Since Kaiser typically interfaces internally, there were no strong use cases for moving forward with FHIR/v2 mapping.
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Owner: , Due: |
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Tuesday Q2
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Hyatt Regency, La Jolla, CA, USA, Studio Suite 410 |
Date: 2017-09-12 Time: Tuesday Q2 | ||
| Facilitator | Line Saele | Scribe | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Line Saele | Helse Vest IKT Norway | |
| X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente, USA | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- FHIR R4 ChargeItem review
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
The WG reviewed the Charge Item
Action: Request adding charge item as a resource in GFORGE. Assigned: Brian
Requesting organization and performing organization.
There was a suggestion as to whether performingUnit, or something conceptually similar should be included.
The WG discussed the performingOrganization and requestingOrganization and how these relate, should/should not be included in the charge item.
The WG continued and discussed the various charge item scenarios and how the current elements would support each and perhaps all scenarios.
http://build.fhir.org/chargeitem.html
Simone had built the model based on use cases from one organization. She was soliciting feedback.
Action: Create a tracker item to add the concept of cost center to chargeItem. Assigned: Cooper.
Simone will bring more examples to the work group to support global use of charge item.
The WG discussed the references for subject.
A motion was made by Simone to accept the addition of a new property to the Account resource permitting the linkage of accounts and remove the current balance element. Seconded by Cooper seconds.
partOf 0…1 ResourceReference(Account)
Discussion: None
Vote (for/against/abstain): 11/0/2
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Tuesday Q3
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Hyatt Regency, Baltimore, MD, Guest Room# 603 |
Date: 2017-09-12 Time: Tuesday Q3 | ||
| Facilitator | Line Saele | Scribe | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Line Saele | Helse Vest IKT Norway | |
| X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente, USA | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 2 members): Yes/No | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Scheduling Resources/Service joint joint meeting with SOA
Supporting Documents
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Meeting Outcomes
Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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Tuesday Q4
| HL7 Patient Administration Meeting Minutes Location: Hyatt Regency, Baltimore, MD, Guest Room #603 |
Date: 2017-09-12 Time: Tuesday Q4 | ||
| Facilitator | Line Saele | Scribe | Alex de Leon |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation | |
| X | Line Saele | Helse Vest IKT Norway | |
| X | Brian Postlethwaite | HealthConnex, Australia | |
| X | Alex de Leon | Kaiser Permanente, USA | |
| Quorum Requirements Met (Chair + 3 members): Yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Approve Madrid Minutes
- Plan next meeting
- Updates from the Steering Division
- Harmonization proposals
- v2 work
Supporting Documents
- Go To Monday Madrid Minutes
- Go To Tuesday Madrid Minutes
- Go To Wednesday Madrid Minutes
- Go To Thursday Madrid Minutes
- Draft Agenda
Minutes
Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Meeting Outcomes
| Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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