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2016-11-17 Patient Care FHIR Call
Meeting Information
| Patient Care FHIR Resources Conference Call Location: Conference Call |
Date: 2016-MM-DD Time: 5-6:30pm ET | ||
| Facilitator | Michelle M Miller | Note taker(s) | Michelle M Miller |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation
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| Elaine Ayres | NIH/Department of Clinical Research Informatics | ||
| Stephen Chu | |||
| Danielle Friend | Epic | ||
| Eric Haas | Haas Consulting | ||
| Rob Hausam | Hausam Consulting LLC | ||
| Laura Heermann-Langford | Intermountain Healthcare | ||
| Emma Jones | Allscripts | ||
| Russ Leftwich | InterSystems | ||
| Tony Little | Optum 360 | ||
| Jay Lyle | Ockham Information Services LLC, VA | ||
| Sarah Maulden | VA | ||
| Hank Mayers | ReliaTech Consulting | ||
| Jim McClay | Univ of Nebraska Medical Center | ||
| Russell McDonell | Telstra Health | ||
| Lloyd McKenzie | Gevity (HL7 Canada) | ||
| Larry McKnight | Cerner | ||
| Michelle M Miller | Cerner | ||
| Lisa Nelson | Life Over Time Solutions | ||
| Viet Nguyen | Lockheed Martin, Systems Made Simple | ||
| M'Lynda Owens | Cognosante | ||
| Craig Parker | Intermountain Healthcare | ||
| Scott Robertson | Kaiser Permanente | ||
| Simon Sum | Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics | ||
| Iona Thraen | Dept of Veterans Affairs | ||
| Quorum Requirements Met: yes | |||
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Agenda review
- Approve previous meeting minutes 2016-11-10_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call
- Motion: <moved>/<seconded>
- Prior Action Item Follow-up
- gForge change request
Supporting Information
STU 3 Timeline
From FHIR_Ballot_Prep
- Sun Oct. 9
- Last date for change requests (subsequent change requests are auto-punted to release 4)
- Sun Nov. 20
- All ballot reconciliation complete
- Sun Nov. 27
- All substantive changes applied to Core
- Sun Dec. 4
- Content freeze for ballot & connectathon & publication QA review
- Sun Dec. 24
- QA review complete, Qa changes begin being applied
- Dec 29 - Jan 3ish
- Publish
FHIR Maturity Levels
[1] Level 3 requires the artifact has been verified by the work group as meeting the DSTU_2_QA_guidelines and has been subject to a round of formal balloting; has at least 10 implementer comments recorded in the tracker drawn from at least 3 organizations resulting in at least one substantive change
| Resource |
Current FMM Level | Goal FMM Level | QA Status | QA Reviewer | Implementation | Comments |
| AllergyIntolerance | 1 | 3 | Michelle | Argonaut | ||
| Condition | 2 | 3 | Michelle | Argonaut | ||
| Procedure | 1 | 3 | Michelle | Argonaut | ||
| CarePlan | 1 | 3 | Michelle | Argonaut | ||
| Goal | 1 | 3 | Michelle | |||
| QuestionnaireResponse | 2 | 2 | Lloyd | Lloyd will QA to get to level 3 | ||
| Questionnaire | 0 | 2 | Lloyd | Lloyd will QA to get to level 3 | ||
| CareTeam | 0 | 2 | NA | Michelle | Aggressive goal (e.g. whether we'll get the implementations needed) | |
| FamilyMemberHistory | 1 | 2 | NA | NA | Aggressive goal (e.g. whether we'll get the implementations needed) | |
| ClinicalImpression | 0 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| ReferralRequest | 1 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| ProcedureRequest | 1 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| Linkage | 0 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| Flag | 1 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| Communication | 1 | 1 | NA | NA | ||
| CommunicationRequest | 1 | 1 | NA | NA |
Note: Bold denotes top 20 resource based on survey
Note: Contraindication and Risk Assessment are owned by CDS, not Patient Care
Minutes
Prior Action Item Follow-up
gForge Change Requests
FHIR Publication / Backlog Status
- 44 unresolved tracker items (39 ballot + 5 high maturity resource non-ballot comments) to resolve by Nov 20
- 18 requested input from vocab (value set related ballot comments)
- 7 waiting for input
- 5 waiting to be scheduled (joint with OO or in person requests)
- 14 ready for discussion during our weekly conference call
In Person (Pending Schedule)
In Person Requests -- in the process of being scheduled
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11281 Overall Condition.clinicalStatus and Condition.verificationStatus Condition body site - 2016-09 core #435 - Clem McDonald - TBD
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11290 clinical impression and condition - 2016-09 core #444 - Clem McDonald - TBD
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12090 Rename goal attribute
Joint with OO -- in the process of being scheduled
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11026 Relationship between Condition and Observation - 2016-09 core #45 (Jay Lyle)
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11119 Differentiate ProcedureRequest and DiagnosticRequest and align their elements - 2016-09 core #273 (Danielle Friend)
Feedback on prior resolutions - may need to revisit when Rob McClure can attend.
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11354 - add extension for condition findings
- Resolution is inconsistent -- a terminology service would still need to extract out the substance from the product codes
- In some jurisdictions, like the UK, the use of the condition codes is very much in the 80% (closer to 100%)
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11352 - category cardinality
- Do 80% of systems support multiple categories?
- Our resolution conflicts with the FHIR GA guidelines 4e that say when constraining to the "code" data type, “ensure all codes are mutually exclusive or are defined in a proper hierarchy where siblings are mutually exclusive” – since the value set binding is required and cardinality is 0..*, the value set is neither mutually exclusive, nor defined in a proper hierarchy
Discuss Today
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10429 - revert back per https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/QuestionnaireResponse
Backlog - Ready to Discuss in Subsequent Calls
Resources with higher maturity - target FMM Level 3
AllergyIntolerance
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11021 Increase cardinality of substance and make certainty relation to substance not reaction - 2016-09 core #40 (Jay Lyle) -- Deferred
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11155 Unclear how the negation value set will work - 2016-09 core #309 (Stephen Chu)
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12177 Review/expand the AllergyIntolerance.criticality valueset (Mohannad Hammadeh)
CarePlan / Goal
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12341 Make careplan.subject 1..1
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11116 Better define the careplan.activity.outcome field - discussion occurred during the CarePlan (Wed, Oct 26) conference call. PCWG agreed that outcome is needed on both the activity and goal. For example, a goal of losing 20 pounds might include activities to 1) reduce caloric intake via diet and 2)exercise 30 minutes per day. The outcome associated with the weight loss goal might be an observation with the updated body weight whereas the outcome on the activity side might be the number of calories burned via exercise or calories consumed via diet. Next steps:
- expand/clarify the outcome definitions on both the activity and goal.
- harmonize the outcome structure to allow the activity to reference an observation (like the goal outcome allows)
- bind the outcome codeableconcepts to value sets
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12090 Rename goal attribute (in person?)
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11344 Allow CarePlan.activity.detail.performer to be CareTeam - 2016-09 core #502 (Emma Jones) -- pulled from block vote
Condition
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10635 QA 5a: Resource references exist in both directions for Condition and ClinicalImpression (Michelle Miller)
Procedure
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11162 Suggest include reference to remedial treatment(s) - 2016-09 core #316 (Stephen Chu)
Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12315 Additional Status Code for QuestionnaireResponse 'Not Complete'
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10998 Questionnaire.concept -> Questionnaire.code and update definitions - 2016-09 sdc #64 (Stephen Chu)
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12186 Proposed Changes to Questionnaire / Questionnaire Response from Tuesday evening discussion (Grahame Grieve)
Care Team
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11342 - Add CareTeam.relatedTeam or other composition relationship - 2016-09 core #500
- DAF - http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10715 Add entered in error to valueset-daf-careteam-status (Michelle Miller) - related to http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10725, which is part of the Vocab set to review
ProcedureRequest
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9335 Orders to not do things (Emma Jones)
FamilyMemberHistory List
- http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11139 - Genetic Pedigree profile - 2016-09 core #293
Adjourn
Adjourned at <hh:mm am/pm> <timezone>.
Meeting Outcomes
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