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2016-02-11 Patient Care FHIR Call

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Meeting Information

Patient Care FHIR Resources Conference Call

Location: Conference Call
Phone Number: +1 770-657-9270
Participant Passcode: 943377
Live Meeting: https://www147.livemeeting.com/cc/_XML/cerner/join?id=8FNF2S&role=attend&pw=m9Kd%7Cx9

Date: 2016-02-11
Time: 5-6:30pm ET
Facilitator Michelle M Miller Note taker(s) Michelle M Miller
Attendee Name Affiliation


X Elaine Ayres NIH/Department of Clinical Research Informatics
Stephen Chu
Eric Haas Haas Consulting
X Rob Hausam Hausam Consulting LLC
Laura Heermann-Langford Intermountain Healthcare
Emma Jones Allscripts
X Russ Leftwich InterSystems
X Jay Lyle Ockham Information Services LLC, VA
Sarah Maulden VA
Jim McClay Univ of Nebraska Medical Center
X Russell McDonell Telstra Health
X Lloyd McKenzie Gevity (HL7 Canada)
X Larry McKnight Cerner
X Michelle M Miller Cerner
Lisa Nelson Life Over Time Solutions
Viet Nguyen Systems Made Simple
Craig Parker Intermountain Healthcare
Scott Robertson Kaiser Permanente
X Simon Sum Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics
Iona Thraen Dept of Veterans Affairs
X M'Lynda Owens
Quorum Requirements Met: yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Agenda review
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes: 2016-02-04_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call
    • Motion: Russell/Jay Abstain - 0, Negative - 0, Approve - 4
  3. Prior Action Item Follow-up
  4. gForge change request

Supporting Information

FHIR Resources owned by Patient Care
Maturity levels [1]

  • Questionnaire (2) -- Lloyd will QA to get to 3
  • Questionnaire Response (2) -- Lloyd will QA to get to 3
  • Condition (2)
  • AllergyIntolerance (1) -- Rob
  • Procedure (1)

Connectathon candidates

  • CarePlan (1)
  • Goal (1)
  • Referral Request (1)
  • FamilyMemberHistory (1)

Lower priority resources

  • Procedure Request (1)
  • Flag (1)
  • ClinicalImpression (0) -- goal to move to level 1 by next release
  • Communication (1)
  • CommunicationRequest (1)


Note: Contraindication and Risk Assessment are owned by CDS, not Patient Care

Minutes

Prior Action Item Follow-up

Note vs ClinicalImpression Boundaries

A ‘Note’ is about a subject (typically a patient)
A ‘Note’ may have one or more ‘Clinical Impressions’ which are typically part of a section (named "Assessment/Plan") OR sometimes this is part of a dictation (where the entire document is stored as a PDF or single block of text)
Notes, on the other hand, may contain many things that are NOT clinical Impressions. Notes may contain many things that are NOT clinical impressions at all.
Can any content be included in the note (e.g. allergies, family history)? Anything is possible in a note.

If the H&P is signed, then an annotation could be added.

If capture allergy, diagnosis, procedure, family history, then one possibility in system to capture narrative only (still lives in same place, such that you could retrieve it with other structured allergies, etc). More common to capture raw text into a single bucket with a mixture of allergies, diagnoses, procedures, family history etc.

Different ways to capture data in FHIR:

  1. Domain resource (e.g. allergy, condition, procedure, etc) -- discrete form or narrative form or combination of both
  2. Questionnaire contains structured data

Are notes another way to capture data? Narrative, tied to subject, context/encounter, author, time

Introduce new resource for capturing raw form text
When we know what the content is, then use specific domain resource narrative

gForge Change Requests

Adjourn

Adjourned at <hh:mm am/pm> <timezone>.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • .
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  1. Agenda review
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes
    • Motion: <moved>/<seconded> Abstain - <#>, Negative - <#>, Approve - <#>
  3. gForge change request

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