RIMBAA 201111 Minutes Amsterdam

This RIMBAA WG meeting (an out of cycle meeting) has been designated as an out-of-cycle meeting of the international HL7 RIMBAA working group. TSC approval was given on April 4, 2011.

• Date: November 15 (09:30-17:00)
• Location: TBD, Amsterdam, NL
• Registration: There is no registration fee - the size of the room is limited to 25 attendees. Please register by either adding your name to the list at the end of this wiki page or e-mal Rene.
• Travel/accomodation: via Amsterdam Schiphol airport (AMS)
• Co-chairs: Rene Spronk
• Short URL: http://j.mp/gDvszi

RIMBAA WGM #33 - November 15 Agenda (09:30-17:00)

1. Administrative (max 30 minutes)
   • Agenda Review/Additions/Changes (max 5 minutes)
   • Approval of the Minutes of the previous meeting in San Diego (max 5 minutes)
   • Announcements (max 10 minutes)
     • Articles for the Dutch HL7 Magazine or the International HL7 News - if you have articles, let us know
   • Report from the Orlando WGM, and the meeting in San Diego (Rene, max 15 minutes)
   • Planning of the next meeting in San Antonio, USA
   • Tooling liason update
2. Finnish experiences: the RIM based architecture of the Intensium solution (Pekka Kola, Tieto Oyj, Finland)
   • The Intensium software application (now owned by Tieto) is the only RIM-based application in Finland. Most of the solutions in Finland are based on architectures from 80s or 90s and obviously RIM was not there. Pekka was lucky enough to have an opportunity to start building totally new architecture in 2004. He had done before several “self-designed” architectures for intensive care and anesthesia solutions, each having more or less problems. He also had been following HL7 development years, especially RIM, so he decided to jump into cold water with it. The application has RIM all the way from database to UI layer and it's working just nicely.
3. Resources For Healthcare (RFH) - update, and implementation aspects (Ewout Kramer, Furore, the Netherlands)
   • RFH is a new HL7-project and specification (which was extensively discussed at the HL7 WGM in San Diego) that in essence proposes a RESTful protocol in conjunction with XML-based Resources (which in RIMBAA align neatly with our concept of SMIRFs). The XML has a predefined structure, elements are linked to a RIM-based data dictionary. This is basically the same thought as the Micro ITS. It combines some recent best practices in implementing v3 with a number of internet/open standards.
     • The original announcement of RFH (with comments) can be found here, RFH itself is documented at http://www.healthintersections.com.au/rfh/introduction.htm
4. Process to evaluate implementation oriented tools/toolkits
   • Purpose: to recommend that certain tools be used, or to recommend to HL7 that it support the development of certain tools.
     • Includes issues such as: defining Quality criteria, determining whethere or not there is an appropriate level of support
5. RIM database generation and CDA parsing (Henk Enting, MGRID, the Netherlands)
   • Note: MGRID have presented their solution before - the main feature of which is that it uses a Database with native ISO datatypes (see the "PostgreSQL implementation" section on that wiki page). This presentation will however focus on recent developments.
   • Henk will demonstrate:
     • a database model generator that generates HL7v3 RIM datamodels from the HL7v3 corerim.mif MIF file (allowing one to generate a databasemodel for any version of the RIM). The database models use the HL7 R1 and R2 datatypes that are built into MGRID.
     • a CDA parser, that parses CDA R2 and outputs MGRID SQL insert statements
       • Context conduction rules, preloaded into MGRID, that are applied automatically when the CDA document is inserted
6. Discuss the possible creation of a 'reference implementation'
   • Discussion of whether or not we want to have/create one
   • Could be based on the Everest/jEverest toolkit with an added persistence layer (ORM out of the box, or MGRID).
7. other agenda items

Registrations (add name at end of list): Rene Spronk (Ringholm, NL), Hans Jonkers (Philips Research, NL), Michael van der Zel (UMCG, NL), Ewout Kramer (Furore, NL), Pekka Kola (FI), Henk Enting (MGRID, NL), Willem Dijkstra (MGRID, NL), Adri Buurggraaff (HL7, NL)

Regrets:

• Patrick Loyd (I had previously registered. However, I've recently become Chair of Lab WG in Canada; and those meetings have now been scheduled from November 14-16.)
• Jean-Henri Duteau (GP Informatics, CA)