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Issue is in the schema, not the spec. If we were to change the schemas, this is a tech correction. | Issue is in the schema, not the spec. If we were to change the schemas, this is a tech correction. | ||
PK: UUID Abs 1 & 2 said UC. If it says case insentive, then we my just have a case in the later schema is incorrect. | PK: UUID Abs 1 & 2 said UC. If it says case insentive, then we my just have a case in the later schema is incorrect. | ||
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PK: We have been consistently wrong, and we finally got it right. Do we force everyone to clean it up or do we fix in a future version? | PK: We have been consistently wrong, and we finally got it right. Do we force everyone to clean it up or do we fix in a future version? | ||
GG: All say comparisons are case insensitive. | GG: All say comparisons are case insensitive. | ||
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GG: Should be TC that 1.0 and 2.0 Abstract are wrong | GG: Should be TC that 1.0 and 2.0 Abstract are wrong | ||
| − | Motion: The Abstract | + | '''Motion:''' The Abstract Datatypes 1.0 and 2.0 descriptions of UUID being upper case be changed to mixed case. (GB, AS) 8/0/1 |
Action: That GG amend the Abstract Data types, and all associated artifacts. | Action: That GG amend the Abstract Data types, and all associated artifacts. | ||
Revision as of 06:15, 1 February 2011
Contents
ITS - Sydney Australia, WGM January 2011
Co-Chairs
Paul Knapp (PK) Dale Nelson (DN) Andy Stechishin (AS)
Monday, January 10
Q1
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Discussion of planned activities for the week
Brief discussion of Green CDA and its relationship to ITS WG
Discussion on hData preparations for ArB session.
Agenda updates posted to Wiki and a message sent to the list server
Q2
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Q3
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Q4
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Tuesday, January 11
Q1
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Q2
Joint with Structured Docs
Q3
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Q4
Did not meet
Wednesday, January 12
Q1
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Robert Worden presented a short update on Neutral mapping project via Webex.
R Worden then spent some time on the UK work on a simple ITS
Q2
Chair: PK Scribe: AS, DN
We (ITS) SPL does not want to adapt changes in DT R2 which would mean a lot of changes. It was agreed they would use R1.1, by trading partner agreement. We have a Norm spec that depends on an Inform spec. It is desired to make it Normative. Grahame objects, and wishes to call it DT 2B.
Is the wires format the same in R2 DT as
At abstract, they are implementing DT R2
Datatypes
| Version | Abstract Basis | Status | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1.0 | 1.0 | Normative | |
| 1.1 | 2.0 | Informative | Normative? 2B? |
| 2.0 | 2.0 | Normative |
XMLITS
| Version | Based on | Status |
|---|---|---|
| 1.0 | DT 1.0 | Normative |
| 1.1 | DT 1.0 | Normative |
| 2.0 | DT 2.0 | Normative |
Tooling
| Version | ITS | DT | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1.0 | 1.0 | 1.0 | |||
| 1.1 | 1.1 | 1.1 | 2.0 | 2.0 | 2.0 |
Which ballot are we talking about JK: redo it using ISO datatypes in a correct way. GG: But that breaks their non-backwards compatibility chain. DN: Has HL7 guaranteed BW compatibility? GG: V2 yes, V3 semantic only. PK: We need to think about what the organization should be doing. Perhaps a straw vote. 1.1->Normative 0 1.1->2Minus 3
Should Normative docs stand on Informative docs: No.
UUID
Issue is in the schema, not the spec. If we were to change the schemas, this is a tech correction. PK: UUID Abs 1 & 2 said UC. If it says case insentive, then we my just have a case in the later schema is incorrect. JK: It is transform away. Can SPL provide the transform? PK: require everyone to do local fixes. PK: We have been consistently wrong, and we finally got it right. Do we force everyone to clean it up or do we fix in a future version? GG: All say comparisons are case insensitive.
| Version | Abstract | ITS | Schema |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1.0 | Upper | Mixed | Mixed |
| 1.1 | Mixed | Mixed | |
| 2.0 | Upper | Upper | Upper (annotate) |
GG: Should be TC that 1.0 and 2.0 Abstract are wrong
Motion: The Abstract Datatypes 1.0 and 2.0 descriptions of UUID being upper case be changed to mixed case. (GB, AS) 8/0/1
Action: That GG amend the Abstract Data types, and all associated artifacts.
Motion: (GG/AS) 9-0-0 (1) Do not want to make DT 1.1 backwards compatibility track normative (2) We will if asked by TSC, but want to know how we will avoid maintaining two streams going forward. (3) If it goes normative we will give it an R2 label,
Q3
Did not meet
Q4
Did not meet
Thursday, January 13
Q1
Did not meet
Q2
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Q3
Did not meet
Q4
Chair: PK Scribe: AS
Attendees
| Name | Initials | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | |||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | |||
| Andy Stechishin | AS | andy.stechishin@gmail.com | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | |||||||||
| Dale Nelson | DN | dale.nelson@squaretrneds.com | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | |||||||
| Paul Knapp | PK | pknapp@pknapp.com | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | ||||||
| Gerald Beuchelt | GB | beuchelt@mitre.org | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | ||||||
| Hoylen Sue | HS | hoylen.sue@nehta.gov.au | × | × | × | × | × | × | × | |||||||||
| Philip Wilford | PW | philip.wilford@nehta.gov.au | × | × | × | × | ||||||||||||
| Azmi Hashim | AH | azmi@viamed.com.my | × | × | ||||||||||||||
| Lloyd McKenzie | LM | lloyd@lmckenzie.com | × | |||||||||||||||
| John Koisch | JK | jkoisch@guidewirearchitecture.com | × | × | ||||||||||||||
| Juha Mykkanen | JM | juha.mykkanen@uef.fi | × | |||||||||||||||
| Bob Dolin | BD | × | ||||||||||||||||
| Stephen Royce | SR | stephen.royce@nehta.gov.au | × | × | × | × | ||||||||||||
| Sarah Gaunt | SG | sarah.gaunt@nehta.gov.au | × | × | ||||||||||||||
| Grahame Grieve | GG | grahame@healthintersections.com.au | × | |||||||||||||||
| Vincent Macauley | VM | vincent@macauleysoftware.com | × | |||||||||||||||
| Gavin Morris | GM | gavinm@kestrel.com.au | × | |||||||||||||||
