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The working document is the [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/ballots/2010MAY/reconciliation/recon_v3_cppv3models_r1_n3_2010may.xls reconciliation spreadsheet] posted on HL7 Ballot Desktop.  Items are collected by the entries on the "Comment Grouping" column.
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Four items designated Negative in this grouping
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===Item 20 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
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=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
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Link to : "../conformance/conformance.htm"
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=====Discussion:=====
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Voter note: Is this an official document? If so, should have a link
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===Item 26 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
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=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
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Suggest change to:
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As noted earlier in this section [link previous four words to #coreP_V3_RIM_and_Datatypes] there are numerous "types" defined in HL7 V3 models.  For this discussion, the prmary types are "class" and "data type".
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=====Voter:=====
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Section 3 has a definition of type that should be somehow tied in here, this phrase in column J is not helpful to understanding section 3.4. 
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===Item 36 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
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=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"=====
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Link is to :
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Need official reference
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===Item 37 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote===
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=====Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"=====
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Change the last two sentences under number 8 to read:
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Thus, for example, the assertion of a different primary performer for a descendant class simply means that there will be two such performers listed - the conducted performer and the addition. In this example, when using the current (new) context control structure, one can accomplish the equivalent of a participation "override" (from the prior context control structure) the "PRF" participation code in the ActRelationship leading to the descendant, and assigning a new performer Participation to the descendant. (Note that the new performer then becomes part of the conductible content of the Act for which the performer has been overridden.)
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Also SEE NOTE AT ITEM 172
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=====Voter:=====
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Is this referring to the 'old way'? If not, and this refers to the new way of doing things, then the text should not use the word override as a way to explain - yes I see it in quotes, but its still override, which is no longer used. (which by the way is sometimes spelled override, and in this sentence is over-ride - should be consistent)
 
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==Adjournment==
 
==Adjournment==

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Agenda - Core Principles Reconciliation

Working document

The working document is the reconciliation spreadsheet posted on HL7 Ballot Desktop. Items are collected by the entries on the "Comment Grouping" column.

Comment Grouping "GWB-GG (Neg-Mi)"

Four items designated Negative in this grouping

Item 20 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"

Link to : "../conformance/conformance.htm"

Discussion:

Voter note: Is this an official document? If so, should have a link

Item 26 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"

Suggest change to:

As noted earlier in this section [link previous four words to #coreP_V3_RIM_and_Datatypes] there are numerous "types" defined in HL7 V3 models. For this discussion, the prmary types are "class" and "data type".

Voter:

Section 3 has a definition of type that should be somehow tied in here, this phrase in column J is not helpful to understanding section 3.4.

Item 36 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive"

Link is to : ../templates/templates.htm#TemplateExampleApplied

Voter:

Need official reference

Item 37 (GWB-GG Neg-Mi) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Persuasive with mod"

Change the last two sentences under number 8 to read:

Thus, for example, the assertion of a different primary performer for a descendant class simply means that there will be two such performers listed - the conducted performer and the addition. In this example, when using the current (new) context control structure, one can accomplish the equivalent of a participation "override" (from the prior context control structure) the "PRF" participation code in the ActRelationship leading to the descendant, and assigning a new performer Participation to the descendant. (Note that the new performer then becomes part of the conductible content of the Act for which the performer has been overridden.)

Also SEE NOTE AT ITEM 172

Voter:

Is this referring to the 'old way'? If not, and this refers to the new way of doing things, then the text should not use the word override as a way to explain - yes I see it in quotes, but its still override, which is no longer used. (which by the way is sometimes spelled override, and in this sentence is over-ride - should be consistent)

Comment Grouping "GROUPING-NAME"

GROUPING-NOTE

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

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Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Item NN (GROUPING-NAME) (moved/seconded) vote

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "disposition"

DISPOSITION-COMMENT

Voter:

PRELIMINARY-NOTES-AND-DISCUSSION

Adjournment

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