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Issue: “Combined State Transitions”
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− | + | == San Diego, January 2006== | |
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+ | <li>'''Issue:''' Do we need to make a difference between a extension of the stop date/time into the future, or shortening the stop date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Extension can be dealt with in a couple of ways:</li> | ||
+ | <ol> | ||
+ | <li>Complete existing order with a stop date/time of “now” and enter a new order with a start date/time of “now” until the new stop date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Change the stop date/time to the new stop date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Create a new order for the period after the existing stop date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Replace the entire existing order and then enter a new order “retroactively”.</li> | ||
+ | </ol> | ||
+ | <li>However this needs to look different from a scenario where the current order must be stopped due to clinical objectives not be met and “replaced” with another order.</li> | ||
+ | <li>We agree that 1 and 4 should not be used for this scenario.</li> | ||
+ | <li>There was much discussion whether to get to one option or whether to accept two ways of communicating the extension depending on the system’s capabilities.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Motion to support options 2 and 3 now, recognizing that 1 and 4 do not have enough use case support to justify addressing at this point in time.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Vote: Against: 0, Abstain: 2, In Favor: 9</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Issue:''' Discontinue of an order “now” that had an open-ended date or specific future date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Complete or Abort depending on whether the discontinuation is “abnormal”</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Issue:''' Shortening or changing a stop date/time from “undetermined” or specific date/time to a specific, but closer future date/time.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>Revise Active</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>Motion to accept both “Discontinue …” and “Shortening…” bullets.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Vote:''' Against: 0, Abstain: 1, In Favor: 10.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>Mood code on the trigger event ControlAct is always in Event mood (because MnM so decreed), while in the case of a request we’ll introduce a Request ControlAct in the Payload, but not in the case of a notification.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Gunther to dump minutes related to Dynamic Model into the Wiki and start building onto that.</li> | ||
+ | <li>'''Issue:''' Refinement Discontinue bullet:</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>If the effective stop date/time is changed to “now” and/or reached, then the order is complete.</li> | ||
+ | <li>If the effective stop date/time is not changed and the order is discontinued, then the order is aborted.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>A pre-condition is a filter to the execution of the order, but not an indication of the status of the order.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Motion to accept.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Vote:''' Against: 0; Abstain: 4; In Favor: 11</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Issue:''' Refinement Shortening bullet. | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>If we send a future discontinue (abort) without changing the overall effective stop date/time, we should send an order with a control act in event mood with a future date/time. When the date/time is reached, the state changes to abort.</li> | ||
+ | <li>Motion to accept.</li> | ||
+ | <ul> | ||
+ | <li>'''Vote:''' Against: 0; Abstain: 4; In Favor: 13.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | </ul> | ||
+ | <li>Questtion: can we combine the suspend and resume in one message? TBD.</li> | ||
+ | </ul> |
Revision as of 15:09, 12 May 2006
bb== San Antonio, May 2006 ==
- Project Team
- We seem not to be able to get a project team going to focus on the Dynamic Model that cuts across the different areas.
- Should we consider an out-of-cycle, e.g., Sunday prior, or Friday, on Dynamic Model?
- Should we focus on creating documentation rather then just making decisions?
- Hans to send out request for interest to meet on Sunday prior or Friday for a full day.
- Objectives
- Initially focus on common set of rules on how to deal with order management state transitions after the creation of an order.
- Covers lab, Rx, Rad, PT, Dietary, NRS, Procedures, etc.
- Subsequently:
- Create set of rules on how to deal with observation state transitions
- Synchronize with referrals and appointments.
- Referral is patient care provision in order mood.
- Wiki
- We agreed to use the wiki site to channel discussions.
- Hans to populate raw data. Notes and initial seed of the documentation
- Copy-n-paste the general act state machine as well.
- Documentation
- We should take current state machine of act and elaborate under the common order model.
- Alternatively, we can use storyboards as starting point.
- We need to provide both the storyboards and state machine.
- Approach
- Should we use the HDF approach to generate the artifacts necessary?
- Should we go back to the topics discussed to date and start to go for each one of them and start to produce these artifacts and refine our approach?
- We agreed to address Storyboard (wiki/pub db), Activity Diagram (visio), Interaction (pub db), Trigger Events (wiki/pub db), Application Roles, State Transition Definition. (those in bold are needed for ballot).
- Left to Right or Right to Left?
- Do they all end up in the ballot and therefore, do we need to do them?
- Consider listing/prioritizing all topics, or take 1-2 storyboards and flesh them out completely. The latter would not touch all topics, but complete all necessary steps.
- Tom and Rob to provide initial story boards.
- Michael/Garry C initial “pub drivers”
- Wendell initial “visio driver”
- Examples:
- Suspend/Resume – one focal act, two state transitions
- Replace – one focal act and non-focal act, each with their own state transition
- Do not want to send two messages for the Replace. MnM must support, or we’ll ignore them.
- Motion: Suspend/Resume – two messages are consistent with V2. Until clear use case to combine, suggest to stay with two messages. Tom moved, Rob second.
- Discussion: None.
- Vote: Against: 0; Abstain: 0; In Favor: 15
San Diego, January 2006
- Issue: Do we need to make a difference between a extension of the stop date/time into the future, or shortening the stop date/time.
- Extension can be dealt with in a couple of ways:
- Complete existing order with a stop date/time of “now” and enter a new order with a start date/time of “now” until the new stop date/time.
- Change the stop date/time to the new stop date/time.
- Create a new order for the period after the existing stop date/time.
- Replace the entire existing order and then enter a new order “retroactively”.
- However this needs to look different from a scenario where the current order must be stopped due to clinical objectives not be met and “replaced” with another order.
- We agree that 1 and 4 should not be used for this scenario.
- There was much discussion whether to get to one option or whether to accept two ways of communicating the extension depending on the system’s capabilities.
- Motion to support options 2 and 3 now, recognizing that 1 and 4 do not have enough use case support to justify addressing at this point in time.
- Vote: Against: 0, Abstain: 2, In Favor: 9
- Issue: Discontinue of an order “now” that had an open-ended date or specific future date/time.
- Complete or Abort depending on whether the discontinuation is “abnormal”
- Issue: Shortening or changing a stop date/time from “undetermined” or specific date/time to a specific, but closer future date/time.
- Revise Active
- Motion to accept both “Discontinue …” and “Shortening…” bullets.
- Vote: Against: 0, Abstain: 1, In Favor: 10.
- Mood code on the trigger event ControlAct is always in Event mood (because MnM so decreed), while in the case of a request we’ll introduce a Request ControlAct in the Payload, but not in the case of a notification.
- Gunther to dump minutes related to Dynamic Model into the Wiki and start building onto that.
- Issue: Refinement Discontinue bullet:
- If the effective stop date/time is changed to “now” and/or reached, then the order is complete.
- If the effective stop date/time is not changed and the order is discontinued, then the order is aborted.
- A pre-condition is a filter to the execution of the order, but not an indication of the status of the order.
- Motion to accept.
- Vote: Against: 0; Abstain: 4; In Favor: 11
- Issue: Refinement Shortening bullet.
- If we send a future discontinue (abort) without changing the overall effective stop date/time, we should send an order with a control act in event mood with a future date/time. When the date/time is reached, the state changes to abort.
- Motion to accept.
- Vote: Against: 0; Abstain: 4; In Favor: 13.
- Questtion: can we combine the suspend and resume in one message? TBD.