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Revision as of 14:48, 12 September 2018

Back to Negation Minutes

Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 PC-CIMI-POC Meeting Minutes

Location: PC call line

Date: 2018-09-05
Time: 4:00-5:00 PM ET
Facilitator Jay Lyle Note taker(s) Jay Lyle
Attendee Name Affiliation



Jay Lyle JP Systems
Yanyan Hu Joint Commission
Senthil Nachimuthu 3M
Ken Lord VA
Rob Hausam IMO
Ben Hamlin NCQA
Lisa Nelson
Emma Jones Allscripts
George Dixon Allscripts
Michelle Miller Cerner
Michael Padula Cerner
Stephen Chu

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. review
    1. Problem - see Negation transform examples

Minutes

  1. Problem
    1. No problems: CDA negated 'problem' = FHIR code "no problems". This seems unproblematic.
    2. CDA can negate a specific problem
      1. FHIR can negate a specific problem if there is a specific code (Diabetic retinopathy of eye not detected (situation))
      2. Usually, there is a reason
        1. Refute a rule-out or suspected problem (verification status)
        2. Resolve a problem (clinical status)
        3. Some are just protocol questions: not pregnant, no night sweats.
          1. these are observations, not conditions. There doesn't seem to be a lot of need for specific negation of conditions.
        4. Use case: if CCDA contains "diabetes" negated, then what?
          1. How often does this happen?
          2. Engine needs to specify assumptions, e.g.,
            1. if it's a negated condition, it's not a condition; drop it, or
            2. only send negated conditions with histories that tell us whether to tag it as Resolved or Refuted
  2. next week
    1. Ken: no physical impairment
    2. Jay: no problems (more examples)

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • request FHIR example of negated family history
  • stakeholders interested in completion, secure resources
  • review posted document draft, examples


Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

Agenda for 8/22:

  • tbd

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