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| || Hans Buitendijk|| ||Brian Postlethwaite  || ||Paul Knapp || || Anne W., scribe
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| ||Josh Mandel  || ||John Moehrke|| ||Brian Pech || ||  
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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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*Roll Call
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**Visitor: Chris Johnson
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*Agenda Check
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**MOTION to accept: John/Brian Pech
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*Minutes from [[2017-11-22_FMG_concall]]
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**MOTION to accept: John/Josh
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**VOTE: Hans abstains. Remaining in favor.
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*Action items
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**Josh and Grahame to document process of hosting materials for ballot review on Github
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***Carry forward
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**Paul to take proposal on publishing ballot content on Github/other tools to TSC when available
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***Carry forward
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**Hans to follow up with Lorraine/Eric/Claude re: attending upcoming meeting to update on CatalogEntry
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***Will update in January
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**David to follow up with Todd Cooper re: Devices on FHIR track
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***Awaiting response. Carry forward.
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**John Moehrke will flesh out the scenarios for IHE-on-FHIR
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***Carry forward.
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**Paul to complete financial track
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***Carry forward
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*Review Items
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**Resource Proposals
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***[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=SubstanceSpecification_FHIR_Resource_Proposal SubstanceSpecification]
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***[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=MedicinalProduct_FHIR_Resource_Proposal MedicinalProduct]
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**** Lloyd concerned that these are still large and complicated, with room for potential use of more generic structures that we could apply in other places. Comfortable with this kind of content being represented - the problem is the way it's represented. They can work on their models without the resources being approved for the time being. Would like to see some work and agreement with the Pharmacy WG.
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*****MOTION to accept the proposal with two comments: 1) We are concerned about the size and therefore the number of resources, and before it proceeds beyond draft we would like to review ways to simplify; 2) While that's happening, we'd like to look at clearer names for the resources: Hans/no second
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*****Lloyd expresses concern that the resource proposal is our final gateway. Once it's approved, we have no more say. Not willing to say yet that this is the appropriate scope boundary. Would like the work to continue to proceed with the Pharmacy WG involved, with consensus around boundaries, reusable parts, things that are IDMP specific, use-case specific. 
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*****MOTION that we are happy to let the work continue, that we would like the design work to continue including coordination with the Pharmacy WG around their notion of MedicationKnowledge, and that we foresee approving the relevant IDMP resource proposals as a collective once we are comfortable that all of the parts are well understood, as well as their relationships and potential for reuse in other contexts has been resolved: Lloyd/John
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*****VOTE: All in favor
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*Discussion Topics
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*Reports
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**Connectathon management (David/Brian)
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***ACTION: David will go through tracks and create links from the description page.
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**[[FHIR Governance Board|FGB]] –
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***Haven't met
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**MnM –
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***Met yesterday and approved Core Principles.
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**[[FMG Liaisons]] –
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***No update
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*Process management
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**Ballot Planning
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***Lloyd sent reminder with dates.
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**FHIR Design patterns - see [[FHIR Design Patterns]] -->
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**Ballot content review and QA process [[FHIR QA Guidelines]]
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*AOB (Any Other Business)
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**Discussion over changing the time to 60 minutes. Decision to leave at 90 minutes for the time being and revisit.
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*Adjourned at 4:40 pm Eastern
  
  
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Latest revision as of 22:36, 5 December 2017

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location:
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597
(voice and screen)

Date: 2017-11-29
Time: 4:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Note taker(s): Anne W.
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs x David Hay x Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio Lorraine Constable,
Dave Shaver
FGB Co-chairs		 . Wayne Kubick, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
x Hans Buitendijk Brian Postlethwaite Paul Knapp x Anne W., scribe
x Josh Mandel x John Moehrke x Brian Pech
Grahame Grieve x Chris Johnson

Agenda

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • Minutes from 2017-11-22_FMG_concall
  • Action items
    • Josh and Grahame to document process of hosting materials for ballot review on Github
    • Paul to take proposal on publishing ballot content on Github/other tools to TSC when available
    • Hans to follow up with Lorraine/Eric/Claude re: attending upcoming meeting to update on CatalogEntry
    • David to follow up with Todd Cooper re: Devices on FHIR track
    • John Moehrke will flesh out the scenarios for IHE-on-FHIR
    • Paul to complete financial track
  • Review Items
  • Discussion Topics
  • Reports
  • Process management
  • AOB (Any Other Business)

Minutes

  • Roll Call
    • Visitor: Chris Johnson
  • Agenda Check
    • MOTION to accept: John/Brian Pech
  • Minutes from 2017-11-22_FMG_concall
    • MOTION to accept: John/Josh
    • VOTE: Hans abstains. Remaining in favor.
  • Action items
    • Josh and Grahame to document process of hosting materials for ballot review on Github
      • Carry forward
    • Paul to take proposal on publishing ballot content on Github/other tools to TSC when available
      • Carry forward
    • Hans to follow up with Lorraine/Eric/Claude re: attending upcoming meeting to update on CatalogEntry
      • Will update in January
    • David to follow up with Todd Cooper re: Devices on FHIR track
      • Awaiting response. Carry forward.
    • John Moehrke will flesh out the scenarios for IHE-on-FHIR
      • Carry forward.
    • Paul to complete financial track
      • Carry forward
  • Review Items
    • Resource Proposals
      • SubstanceSpecification
      • MedicinalProduct
        • Lloyd concerned that these are still large and complicated, with room for potential use of more generic structures that we could apply in other places. Comfortable with this kind of content being represented - the problem is the way it's represented. They can work on their models without the resources being approved for the time being. Would like to see some work and agreement with the Pharmacy WG.
          • MOTION to accept the proposal with two comments: 1) We are concerned about the size and therefore the number of resources, and before it proceeds beyond draft we would like to review ways to simplify; 2) While that's happening, we'd like to look at clearer names for the resources: Hans/no second
          • Lloyd expresses concern that the resource proposal is our final gateway. Once it's approved, we have no more say. Not willing to say yet that this is the appropriate scope boundary. Would like the work to continue to proceed with the Pharmacy WG involved, with consensus around boundaries, reusable parts, things that are IDMP specific, use-case specific.
          • MOTION that we are happy to let the work continue, that we would like the design work to continue including coordination with the Pharmacy WG around their notion of MedicationKnowledge, and that we foresee approving the relevant IDMP resource proposals as a collective once we are comfortable that all of the parts are well understood, as well as their relationships and potential for reuse in other contexts has been resolved: Lloyd/John
          • VOTE: All in favor
  • Discussion Topics
  • Reports
    • Connectathon management (David/Brian)
      • ACTION: David will go through tracks and create links from the description page.
    • FGB –
      • Haven't met
    • MnM –
      • Met yesterday and approved Core Principles.
    • FMG Liaisons –
      • No update
  • Process management
    • Ballot Planning
      • Lloyd sent reminder with dates.
    • Ballot content review and QA process FHIR QA Guidelines
  • AOB (Any Other Business)
    • Discussion over changing the time to 60 minutes. Decision to leave at 90 minutes for the time being and revisit.
  • Adjourned at 4:40 pm Eastern


Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

2017-12-06 FMG concall


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