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* New business? | * New business? | ||
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+ | ===Deferred items for future discussion=== | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9167 9167] AuditEvent+needs+to+make+more+obvious+how+to+record+a+break-glass+event (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10343 10343] Three+additional+Signature.type+codes (Kathleen Connor) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10579 10579] New+Security+and+Privacy+%22Module%22+page+needs+content (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10580 10580] How+should+test+data+be+identified%3F (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10581 10581] something+should+be+said+about+de-identification (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12462 12462] Security%2FPrivacy+Module+page+should+explain+W5+realty+that+provenance+elements+in+other+resources+vs+use+of+Provenance+as+a+resource (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12463 12463] explain+relationship+between+Provenance+and+AuditEvent.+ (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12501 12501] Provenance.reason+and+Provenance.activity+should+be+CodeableConcept (Grahame Grieve) None | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12502 12502] Provenance.agent.relatedAgentType+is+nonsensical (Grahame Grieve) None | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12660 12660] HCS+use+clarification (John Moehrke) None | ||
+ | *[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11071 11071] Improve+security+label+guidance+-+2016-09+core+%2390 (Kathleen Connor) Not Persuasive | ||
===FHIR Security block vote=== | ===FHIR Security block vote=== |
Revision as of 21:25, 14 February 2017
Contents
Call Logistics
Weekly: Tuesday at 05:00 EST (2 PM PST)
Conference Audio: 770-657-9270,' Access: 845692 Join online meeting: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/520841173 Please be aware that teleconference meetings are recorded to assist with creating the meeting minutes
Back to HL7 FHIR security topics
Attendees
Member Name | Member Name | Member Name | ||||||
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x | John Moehrke Security Co-Chair | x | Kathleen Connor Security Co-Chair | x | Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-Chair | |||
. | Gary Dickinson EHR Co-Chair | . | Johnathan ColemanCBCC Co-Chair | . | Mike Davis | |||
. | Reed Gelzer RM-ES Lead | x | Glen Marshal | . | Galen Mulrooney | |||
. | Dave Silver | . | Rob Horn | . | Judy Fincher | |||
. | Diana Proud-Madruga | . | Beth Pumo | . | Oliver Lawless | |||
. | Bob Dieterle | . | Mario Hyland | . | Joe Lamy | |||
. | Rick Grow | . | [mailto: Richard Etterma] | . | [mailto: Wayne Kubic] |
Agenda
- Roll;
- approval of agenda
- approval of the HL7 FHIR Security 2017-01-31 Minutes
- All security open http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&tracker_query_id=4967
- Set FMM values
- Work on quality issues
- New business?
- No meeting next week due to HIMSS
Deferred items for future discussion
- 9167 AuditEvent+needs+to+make+more+obvious+how+to+record+a+break-glass+event (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 10343 Three+additional+Signature.type+codes (Kathleen Connor) Considered for Future Use
- 10579 New+Security+and+Privacy+%22Module%22+page+needs+content (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 10580 How+should+test+data+be+identified%3F (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 10581 something+should+be+said+about+de-identification (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 12462 Security%2FPrivacy+Module+page+should+explain+W5+realty+that+provenance+elements+in+other+resources+vs+use+of+Provenance+as+a+resource (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 12463 explain+relationship+between+Provenance+and+AuditEvent.+ (John Moehrke) Considered for Future Use
- 12501 Provenance.reason+and+Provenance.activity+should+be+CodeableConcept (Grahame Grieve) None
- 12502 Provenance.agent.relatedAgentType+is+nonsensical (Grahame Grieve) None
- 12660 HCS+use+clarification (John Moehrke) None
- 11071 Improve+security+label+guidance+-+2016-09+core+%2390 (Kathleen Connor) Not Persuasive
FHIR Security block vote
Outline for Security & Privacy Module
Use this CR or create a set of new CR as needed.
- 10579 New Security and Privacy "Module" page needs content ()
http://build.fhir.org/secpriv-module.html
Use of Security Labels
From email discussion between Kathleen and John -- Summary by John
The FHIR community is unclear on how how to use the security-labels. When is it appropriate to use each type. Where is it appropriate to use each type? Specifically what are the risks they need to consider.
I agree with this.. This is hardly understood by the core people in the security wg... I am however concerned at declaring any specific policy -- such as the sensitivity codes shall never be used.
Seems we could create a few scenarios that outline proper use, and include description of the security considerations that went into that use.
1) Use of HCS tags within a highly-trusted environment (All inside my security boundary, within my own trust environment. my own trust framework). -- This is minimally use between the Access Control services and the REST server, including use of an SLS to enable access control decisions. I could see this highly-trusted environment being bigger than this, but think that most people need to understand that exposing the full HCS security-labels does present a risk.
2) Exposure of Resources to a Moderate-Trusted environment (They are outside my security boundary, but we have a trust framework that assures me they can protect sensitive information and follow obligations) -- the HIE environment. As you say, where _confidentiality and obligations. This is where we can talk to Bundle being a high-water, of only the _confidentiality codes; and where obligations would go.
2.1 ) The placement of obligations seems important enough that we should have a specific scenario just for that, so as to highlight it.
3 ) Having a USA specific example using 42 would be useful too. This is a rollup of all the things we want to say. I think it is okay to be USA centric, but when we do this we should explain the situation in terms that are not overly USA centric.
4) Use of HCS tags when in a low-trusted environment (I trust they will not expose what I give them, but they have limited ability to protect highly sensitive information or to enforce obligations) -- Where you are going to block access to anything sensitive. Showing that blocking access might be silent, or might be explicit (we have outlined this in the http error codes for security). Both are useful policy choices.
4.1 ) do we include your concern around returning obligations only when you KNOW that the recipient will enforce them? It needs to be said somewhere. Here might be good place.
5) Always good to remind people that they are not to expose information when the trust is not there.
Not sure if it is proper to use highly-trusted, moderate-trusted, and low-trusted -- I think the trust framework is key
is this what you are proposing? Did I miss a concept? I think this would be a good discussion today.
Access Control
- Outline for a FAQ improvement on the module page
- Access Control
- Access Control diagram from Mike (Inputs – Decision – Enforcement – Outputs)
- Using OAuth
- Identity
- Leverage OpenID Connect
- Federate (cross-reference, mapping) to local identity descritions
- Informally, or Formally
- Roles
- Using Standard roles from HL7
- Using local codes
- Clearance
- Scopes
- Using SMART scopes
- Basic starter set
- Supports Organizational use-cases with simple consent
- Doesn’t support fine-grain
- Doesn’t support complex consent
- Using HEART – UMA
- Using SMART scopes
- Using Cascading Authorization Servers
- Bridging SMART and UMA and organizational requirements
- Identity
- Using Security labels
- HCS conformance
- MUST have a _confidentiality value (1..1)
- Use of persistence label
- Bundle use of security_tags – high-water
- Comprehensive security_tags on each resource communicated to a trusted peer
- Using security lables from a consent directive (privacy policy) on goverened resources
- Using Clearance with security labels
- HCS conformance
- Bring in stuff from the Privacy Consent Implementation Guide (Consent IG)
- TODO
- Should we create a new page, parellel with security.html -- privacy.html
- Privacy Principles
- Consent as a way to control Collection/Use/Disclosure
- ISO four models (In, Out, In with exceptions, Out with exceptions)
- Trust Framework
- impact on the Conformance resource published by partners.
- Establishing trust Contracts between trading partners