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Ongoing minutes for the TQA Project in reverse chronology here

2016-07-18 Meeting

12p-1p ET 

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Ted K., Rob Snelick, Susan Barber, M'Lynda Owens, Loyd M., Susan M., Richard Esmond, Rob Hausum 

1. Agenda
   1. Bring Lloyd up to speed
      1. LM notes that the top-20 glossary terms needs to align with more detailed work for the binding terms and how different terms line up across the families.
         1. TQA needs to speak to the differences that might exist among the families and identify where either a transition plan to a common approach should be forged versus identifying where process and tools will need to deal with continued variation
      2. Reviewed of 3 main projects
   2. Update on Glossary work
      1. Heather and Lisa not on call
   3. Facilitators work - Susan B.
      1. 2 WG noted they did not have one and would like help. All other WG identified an active facilitator
      2. HQ needs to help us update the list on the main page and improve access.
      3. Heather is to send an updated facilitators training materials to main vocab list
   4. Discusion of Foundational approach to key terminology attributes
      1. Ted and Lloyd will meet separately to begin on terminology gov sub-project strawman
   5. Defined a new area of initial focus - Terminology Publication
      1. Susan M and Richard E are to lead this activity

Next Agenda

1. Hopefully an update on Glossary work - set up separate time?
2. Sub-group updates
3. time on new publication sub-project

2016-06-20 Meeting

12p-1p ET 

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Ted K., Rob Snelick, Richard Esmond, Susan Barber, Susan M., Lisa Nelson, Lloyd - regrets

1. Agenda
   1. Review participants (coverage of product families) - see table
      1. Ted will be the V3 rep.
      2. Lisa -
   2. CIMI discussion - Susan M.
      1. CIMI is now planning on using SOLOR (SCT - LOINC - RxNORM) and unclear the impact on the SCT extension namespace. Susan will investigate.
         1. Approach to terminology in general (workbench, SOLOR, VSAC)
         2. Impact on other work groups
         3. CIMI terminology use and creation issues
   3. Project interim deliverables
      1. Glossary
      2. Foundational approach to key terminology attributes - (Ted)
         1. Create a list of terminology "aspects" that are shared across product families
            1. How terminology is referenced - Code systems, value sets, concept domains -
            2. Places that terminology is used - FIHR resources, extensions, profiles; CDA and V3 Templates, V2 Profiles, V3 RMIMs. All also directly reference terminology.
            3. Technical terminology elements - Identifiers,
   4. Glossary
      1. Sources: VSD glossary, Core Principles, current TQA list, CIMI, any other HL7 list
      2. Tools we can use: SKMT
      3. Initial focus will be "critical foundational terms" that will be completed in our initial TQA project
         1. Initial target will be around 15 terms - others are to email to glossary team what the 15 should be.

Next Meeting July 18 (skipping July 4)

1. Agenda
   1. Bring Lloyd up to speed
   2. Update on Glossary work
   3. Discusion of Foundational approach to key terminology attributes

2016-05-23 Meeting

12p-1p ET 

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Ted K., Susan Barber, Susan M., Linda Duffy (ONC), Rob Snelick

1. Agenda
   1. Review participants (coverage of product families)
      1. Rob will set up a table on the main page
      2. Susan M - CIMI input into TQA. Susan will discuss how CIMI approach to terminology should either serve as a harmonizing basis in general or can be successfully followed only by CIMI, or areas they can adapt to a new harmonized approach.
   2. Review TQA sub-projects
      1. Glossary - Heather & Lisa
         1. Rob to confirm this - Lisa not on the call
      2. Ongoing terminology content selection & maintenance - Ted
         1. Ted & Russ - PSS investigative project to use FHIR terminology services for all HL7 terminology
         2. Gathering process document for Harmonization
            1. He will look for an existing process diagram
            2. 2016 Harm template
      3. Facilitator identification, support and training - Susan B.
         1. Spent most of the time on this topic during the call.
         2. Susan will work from the HQ data Nov 2015 - google doc.
         3. Heather has pushed to get value set design tutorial made available to facilitators

1. Agenda for next meeting June 6
   1. Rob may be taking a course and not be available. Ted will be out also.
   2. Revisit participants
   3. Susan M. discussion on how CIMI will participate
   4. Susan B. - update on Facilitators

2016-04-18 Meeting

10a-11:00a ET 

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Rob Snelick, Susan Barber

Group agreed to cancel this and the next meeting in order to focus on the VSD and VBS projects to complete that work before May. Glossary work will move to the new Glossary project or may stay here.
Rob M to cancel May 2 meeting. Next discussion will be at the May QG meeting.

2016-03-21 Meeting

10a-11:00a ET 

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Susan B, LaMont Georg, Heather G arrived late due to TZ issues

Agenda

1. Rob will be gone and others unable to chair so will cancel 4/4 meeting
2. Further glossary work
   1. Discussed with Heather here discuss moving all glossary work to this project. This will require a change in the time of the call so she can attend.
   2. Worked on a couple of enteries
3. Stan report on discussion to CIMI WG
   1. Stan to discuss at CIMI in upcoming meeting and also discuss output in MIF

Next Agenda

Next meeting is 4/18

1. Admin - change call time? Maybe one hour later - 3p ET?
2. Further glossary work if nothing else
3. Report from Stan on CIMI discuss - MIF output and restriction on use of SCT extension to CIMI.

2016-03-07 Meeting

10a-11:30a ET 

Attendees: Rob McClure - chair, Rob S., Susan B., Stan Huff, Heather G. a bit late

Agenda

1. Rob S. Provide V2 Table entry for glossary
   1. TBD - next time
2. Group worked through rest of first section of glossary
   1. Heather will be attending to help craft a unified HL7 Terminology/Vocab glossary
3. Discussion of CIMI SCT extension namespace.
   1. CIMI tool for SCT ext could be used by other WG but this would result in a significant governance problem
   2. One approach could be that any use of the extension by other WG could only occur through the adoption of CIMI archetype
      1. This means only CIMI creates concepts in the extension.
      2. Stan will ask Harold if he can adapt the tool to also publish the vocab in MIF
   3. Need to meet with CIMI to get the WG input.

Next Agenda

1. Further glossary work
2. Stan report on discussion to CIMI WG

2016-02-22 Meeting

CALL IN is standard Vocab HL7 number. 1 770-657-9270, Participant Passcode: 598745
10a – 11:30a ET
Attendees: Rob McClure, Rob Snelick, Susan Barber, Stan Huff
Standard Vocab quorum requirements: 1 Project lead or Vocab chair and two participants was met.

Agenda for 2/22/16

1. Admin
   1. Call planning.
   2. Confirm Co-sponsor participants
      1. Vocab is Ted and Rob McClure
      2. HTA – Heather
      3. CIMI – Stan
      4. SD/CDA – Lisa
      5. V2 – Rob Snelick
      6. V3 – Woody
      7. FHIR – Lloyd
   3. Continue work of identifying critical terminology issues for HL7 products documented on Requirements page
      1. Discussion on best approach to begin collecting information on QA issues across products.
      2. Continue discussion of CIMI SNOMED CT Extension Namespace

Discussion

1. Worked on Reference page table of terms to define x 40 min
2. Discussed SNOMED CT extension x15min
   1. CIMI use the SCT Ext for the following activities:
      1. As a tool to capture needed concepts during the development of CIMI Models
      2. There are two outcomes of this tool use:
         1. The new concepts are added to an external code system standard (this might occur after initial publication of the CIMI model)
         2. The new concepts remain as HL7 concepts and therefore have to be managed and published by HL7
   2. Issues to decide noting that the extension will be used by CIMI in any case
      1. Should the SCT Ext tool be used by other WG? I think we should assume that all HL7 use will follow the same process
      2. What do we do with the concepts not included in an external code system?
         1. Do we export them out of the tool into MIF and publish them as another HL7 code system?
         2. Do we publish an official SCT Ext namespace?
         3. Both?
         4. Something transitional where we initially publish in MIF but then stop? Is it okay to have another way to publish HL7 code systems?
         5. Do we move other HL7 code systems to the SCT extension and retire MIF as a code system tool?

Next Agenda

1. Rob S. Provide V2 Table entry for glossary
   1. heather will be attending to help craft a unified HL7 Terminology/Vocab glossary
2. If Stan is available - more thoughts on CIMI SCT Extension as noted above
   1. Need to meet with CIMI to get the WG input.

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