Difference between revisions of "October 30, 2012 Security Working Group Conference Call"
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* [mailto:bill.braithwaite@equifax.com Bill Braithwaite] | * [mailto:bill.braithwaite@equifax.com Bill Braithwaite] | ||
− | * [mailto:jcarter@apelon.com John Carter] | + | *[mailto:jcarter@apelon.com John Carter] |
* [mailto:Kathleen_Connor@comcast.net Kathleen Connor] | * [mailto:Kathleen_Connor@comcast.net Kathleen Connor] | ||
− | + | *[mailto:rdgelzer@docintegrity.com Reed D. Gelzer] | |
− | * [mailto:rdgelzer@docintegrity.com Reed D. Gelzer] | + | *[mailto:ajames@drc.com Adrienne James] |
− | * [mailto: | + | *[mailto:arnie@mitre.org Arnie Rosenthal] |
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* [mailto:richard.thoreson@samhsa.hhs.gov Richard Thoreson] CBCC Cochair | * [mailto:richard.thoreson@samhsa.hhs.gov Richard Thoreson] CBCC Cochair | ||
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==Agenda== | ==Agenda== | ||
#''(05 min)'' '''Roll Call, Approve [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=October_23,_2012_Security_Working_Group_Conference_Call October 23, 2012 Security Working Group Conference Call] Security Working Group Conference Call Minutes] & Accept Agenda''' | #''(05 min)'' '''Roll Call, Approve [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=October_23,_2012_Security_Working_Group_Conference_Call October 23, 2012 Security Working Group Conference Call] Security Working Group Conference Call Minutes] & Accept Agenda''' | ||
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#''(05 min)'' '''Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up | #''(05 min)'' '''Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up | ||
==Minutes== | ==Minutes== | ||
− | *RE: Approval of Minutes and Agenda – There was no | + | *RE: '''Approval of Minutes and Agenda''' – There was no cochair so we held an informal discussion call. |
− | *RE: HCS Ballot Update | + | *RE: '''HCS Ballot Update''' – Kathleen reported that the Notices of Intent for Ballot for both HCS and Ontology have been submitted, as well as the Nov. Harmonization proposals. |
− | *RE: | + | *RE: '''S&P Ontology Ballot Update''' – John Carter reported that they are recruiting Tony to help prepare the ballot for January. |
− | + | *RE: '''RM-ES and Security WGs areas of shared metadata scope''' - Group discussed need for interoperable records management and security metadata, use of provenance and integrity completion, confidence, and data alteration. Some of those concerns are already supported by HL7 v.2 and v.3 with classes for author, data enterer, and informant, and class attributes such as status, uncertainty code, and DocumentCompletion, as well as mechanisms for tracking amendments such as snap-shot and update mode. It would be helpful to map those to RM-ES functional requirements related to information exchange. | |
− | *RE: Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up | + | In addition, RM-ES WG may want to review the current records management standards documented in HL7 v.2 Chapter 9 and HL7 v.3 Medical Records Domain to see what they can leverage for their profile. |
− | + | Arnie noted that there is a sophisticated body of work on provenance tracking that should be considered. Inclusion of that work would be helpful for ensuring the semantic interoperability and ability of provenance enabled systems to consume the provenance metadata used for information exchange. | |
− | + | Reed provided a number of examples where use of information exchange concepts like “legal authenticator” are used differently and perhaps inappropriately, and noted the need for some means to enforce a standard definition and use of these concepts especially given their importance to payers and to initiatives such as edMS. | |
− | Meeting adjourned at | + | Harry and Kathleen discussed the manner in which CDA R2 can convey [0...*] legal authenticator, author, informant, and data enterer at the document level, as well as allow [0...*] different author and informant at the Section and Entry levels. What seems to be lacking is the ability to provide author/informant information about entry level classes that are being reported “second-hand”. This would be helpful for tracking the entities from which the CDA entry authors received the entry information being conveyed when the entry author or informant are not the originators. |
− | + | *RE: Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up | |
+ | Participants agreed that it would be helpful have further discussions about metadata that support record management and security. | ||
+ | Meeting adjourned at 2:00 PM Eastern | ||
==Action Items== | ==Action Items== | ||
− | *RE: | + | *RE: Kathleen to fix links to Mike’s HCS presentation |
− | + | *RE: Adrienne and Kathleen to collaborate on minutes | |
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Revision as of 02:37, 31 October 2012
Security Working Group Meeting
Attendees
- Bill Braithwaite
- John Carter
- Kathleen Connor
- Reed D. Gelzer
- Adrienne James
- Arnie Rosenthal
- Richard Thoreson CBCC Cochair
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Agenda
- (05 min) Roll Call, Approve October 23, 2012 Security Working Group Conference Call Security Working Group Conference Call Minutes] & Accept Agenda
- (20 min) HCS Ballot Update – Mike Davis
- (20 min) S&P Ontology Ballot Update - John Carter
- (10 min) TBD Topic
- (05 min) Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up
Minutes
- RE: Approval of Minutes and Agenda – There was no cochair so we held an informal discussion call.
- RE: HCS Ballot Update – Kathleen reported that the Notices of Intent for Ballot for both HCS and Ontology have been submitted, as well as the Nov. Harmonization proposals.
- RE: S&P Ontology Ballot Update – John Carter reported that they are recruiting Tony to help prepare the ballot for January.
- RE: RM-ES and Security WGs areas of shared metadata scope - Group discussed need for interoperable records management and security metadata, use of provenance and integrity completion, confidence, and data alteration. Some of those concerns are already supported by HL7 v.2 and v.3 with classes for author, data enterer, and informant, and class attributes such as status, uncertainty code, and DocumentCompletion, as well as mechanisms for tracking amendments such as snap-shot and update mode. It would be helpful to map those to RM-ES functional requirements related to information exchange.
In addition, RM-ES WG may want to review the current records management standards documented in HL7 v.2 Chapter 9 and HL7 v.3 Medical Records Domain to see what they can leverage for their profile. Arnie noted that there is a sophisticated body of work on provenance tracking that should be considered. Inclusion of that work would be helpful for ensuring the semantic interoperability and ability of provenance enabled systems to consume the provenance metadata used for information exchange. Reed provided a number of examples where use of information exchange concepts like “legal authenticator” are used differently and perhaps inappropriately, and noted the need for some means to enforce a standard definition and use of these concepts especially given their importance to payers and to initiatives such as edMS. Harry and Kathleen discussed the manner in which CDA R2 can convey [0...*] legal authenticator, author, informant, and data enterer at the document level, as well as allow [0...*] different author and informant at the Section and Entry levels. What seems to be lacking is the ability to provide author/informant information about entry level classes that are being reported “second-hand”. This would be helpful for tracking the entities from which the CDA entry authors received the entry information being conveyed when the entry author or informant are not the originators.
- RE: Other Business, Agenda for Next call, Action Items, and Wrap Up
Participants agreed that it would be helpful have further discussions about metadata that support record management and security. Meeting adjourned at 2:00 PM Eastern
Action Items
- RE: Kathleen to fix links to Mike’s HCS presentation
- RE: Adrienne and Kathleen to collaborate on minutes