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**Adjustments to section 5
 
**Adjustments to section 5
 
**'''Motion: ''' Woody moves acceptance as amended. Seconded by Grahame. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
 
**'''Motion: ''' Woody moves acceptance as amended. Seconded by Grahame. '''Vote: ''' unanimously approved.
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**Updated DMP at http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/7021/9776/FGB_DMP_approved20121017.doc.
 
*Review draft precepts and TSC discussion
 
*Review draft precepts and TSC discussion
 
**TSC conversation recalled by Ron is on where precepts go and the role of the GOC and GOM. If product lines define precepts in isolation from one another they risk problems. It may be appropriate for product line governance precepts be submitted to GOC for manifestation in the GOM (somehow).  It may be an appendix or something. GOC precepts to EC need review by the TSC.  
 
**TSC conversation recalled by Ron is on where precepts go and the role of the GOC and GOM. If product lines define precepts in isolation from one another they risk problems. It may be appropriate for product line governance precepts be submitted to GOC for manifestation in the GOM (somehow).  It may be an appendix or something. GOC precepts to EC need review by the TSC.  
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*#operating principles defined for FMG
 
*#operating principles defined for FMG
 
*#Grahame notes a version of XDS with IHE, RESTful access to DICOM as well as interest in the ISO community are some of the cross-SDO efforts underway. Accountability and governance challenges in these relationships might be addressed. Some description needed of the nature of interaction with external organizations on their consumption and execution.  
 
*#Grahame notes a version of XDS with IHE, RESTful access to DICOM as well as interest in the ISO community are some of the cross-SDO efforts underway. Accountability and governance challenges in these relationships might be addressed. Some description needed of the nature of interaction with external organizations on their consumption and execution.  
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*Grahame reports the FHIR ballot list is consuming a great deal of time. He had initially described issues on his blog, discussed on the listserv and then voted by Doodle poll but is getting pressure to put it on the wiki. Ron notes that we have established wikis as operational resources as compared to content of record.  Suggestion made that Grahame's blog posts should be part of HL7 record. We have the ability to protect a page on the wiki. We now have the TSC wiki in-house so we could explore that as well. Ron notes that major points need to be escalated to the wiki for recordkeeping. Woody also notes that you can put a notice on the wiki page that the author will remove others' edits during the active phase of the project. Is the blog official, and the only relevant location of discussions within that community? Austin suggests we pose this question to Electronic Services. Ron suggests we come back to this on the next call after approaching ES. Blog is an appropriate location for operational discussions on doing the work but substantial decisions and ballot reconciliation minutes must be on an HL7 location.
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*Grahame reports an issue had been raised on the appropriateness of the BLOG as a part of the official record of product development.  After discussion, there seemed to be consensus among the group that open dialog about the evolution of FHIR resources was appropriate for the BLOG, with the provision that governance or management decisions that may arise on the BLOG will be officially raised and recorded in the appropriate groups using the official Wiki. These groups would include TSC, FGB, and FMC, and any issues that affect other WGs would be channeled to them by Steering Division reps on FMC and those dicussions and resolutions duly recorded as appropriate in their official sites.
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Adjourned 6:06 PM EDT
 
Adjourned 6:06 PM EDT

Latest revision as of 22:17, 17 October 2012

HL7 TSC FGB Meeting Minutes

Location: call 770-657-9270 using code 985371#
GoToMeeting ID: 489-406-709

Date: 2012-10-17
Time: 5:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Facilitator: Ron Parker Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Quorum = TBD yes/no
Chair/CTO Members Members
x Ron Parker x George (Woody) Beeler . Ewout Kramer
, John Quinn . Grahame Grieve .
observers/guests x Austin Kreisler
Brian Pech

Proposed Agenda

  • Accept draft DMP
  • Review draft precepts and TSC discussion
  • Discussion of the FHIR Management Group list of names for FMG candidates received so far from the Steering Divisions.


Minutes

Call to order 5:07 PM EDT

  • Ron reviews agenda
  • Accept draft DMP
  • Review draft precepts and TSC discussion
    • TSC conversation recalled by Ron is on where precepts go and the role of the GOC and GOM. If product lines define precepts in isolation from one another they risk problems. It may be appropriate for product line governance precepts be submitted to GOC for manifestation in the GOM (somehow). It may be an appendix or something. GOC precepts to EC need review by the TSC.
    • GOC is a Board committee not necessarily in possession of technical background or subject matter expertise. Austin suggests the GOM may have precepts about governance of product lines rather than precepts from the individual product lines.
    • Ron will go back through the materials available so far and start precepts, not to the detail of the model from Charlie's spreadsheet risk matrices. Hope to have something for the next call.
  • Discussion of the FHIR Management Group list of names for FMG candidates received so far from the Steering Divisions. These would be appointed by the TSC on recommendation of the FGB.
    • Ron adds that we would also have MnM representation - Lloyd has offered to take that role.
    • FGB chair - ex officio,
    • CTO - ex officio
    • MnM co-chair - ex officio, as one of the ad-hoc positions
    • up to two ad-hoc members as suggested.
    • one member from each SD appointed by TSC at recommendation of FGB,
      • Discussion ensued on activity with FHIR by each nominee.
      • Austin asks what the expectations of each nominee or role they play on FMB. Woody feels they would take on coordination of development activity and ensure things are percolating along in order to represent their Steering Division work groups and facilitate communication between them and the FMG.
      • Priorities for development of resources are another task notes Ron. They need to understand scope of effect. They need to be able to bring resources to bear from their Steering Division when needed. Issues of how to execute and other issues for escalation need to be brought to FMG and secondly to FGB.
      • Those that are actively developing product would potentially occupy ad-hoc positions.
    • SD Nominees:
      • John Moehrke representing FTSD
      • Hugh Glover representing DESD
      • Lorraine Constable representing SSD
      • Brian Pech for T3SD
    • Ad-hoc nominees: Jean Duteau and if willing, David Hay (Grahame will confirm by Monday )
    • Motion: Woody moves and Grahame seconds recommendation of this list to TSC. Vote: unanimously approved.
  • Ron asks what we need to produce for the next WGM
    1. A working set of precepts to understand product line behavior
    2. priority list for resource development
    3. operating principles defined for FMG
    4. Grahame notes a version of XDS with IHE, RESTful access to DICOM as well as interest in the ISO community are some of the cross-SDO efforts underway. Accountability and governance challenges in these relationships might be addressed. Some description needed of the nature of interaction with external organizations on their consumption and execution.
  • Grahame reports an issue had been raised on the appropriateness of the BLOG as a part of the official record of product development. After discussion, there seemed to be consensus among the group that open dialog about the evolution of FHIR resources was appropriate for the BLOG, with the provision that governance or management decisions that may arise on the BLOG will be officially raised and recorded in the appropriate groups using the official Wiki. These groups would include TSC, FGB, and FMC, and any issues that affect other WGs would be channeled to them by Steering Division reps on FMC and those dicussions and resolutions duly recorded as appropriate in their official sites.


Adjourned 6:06 PM EDT

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