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**The name and axes of the code are constitutive. The examples can be taken to define the minimum conceptual space. | **The name and axes of the code are constitutive. The examples can be taken to define the minimum conceptual space. | ||
**Open question: whether our codes should be added to the LOINC answer set for existing codes (and for new ones as well). | **Open question: whether our codes should be added to the LOINC answer set for existing codes (and for new ones as well). | ||
− | + | *HL7 "getting out of the business of terminology maintenance": need to define what this means procedurally for value set definition and harmonization | |
+ | *Many domain-specific sets cannot be represented in SCT or other standard terminologies; NEMSIS will become the steward of the NEMSIS code system to support these sets until such time as it is practical and advisable to submit them for inclusion in some other system. | ||
==Action Items== | ==Action Items== |
Latest revision as of 12:42, 13 May 2011
Contents
HL7 project team meeting, 28 April, 2011, 12:00 PM ET
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Attendees
- Jay Lyle, project manager
- Sarah Ryan, terminology facilitator
- Jaci Phillips, MS RN, Regenstrief Institute
- Clay Mann, Director, NEMSIS
- Jim Case, NLM
- Philip DePalo
Agenda
- Agenda check
- loinc submission review
Minutes
- Lumping is OK. NEMSIS elements that are conceptually splittable, but lumped for the purpose of the domain, are acceptable for LOINC question codes.
- LOINC names may differ in point of clarification. NEMSIS may or may not use these clarifications in the NEMSIS publication; likewise the HL7 specifications.
- LOINC Example answers do not exclusively constitute the range of the question. Questions with different answer sets may be used as long as the conceptual space is the same.
- If the answers are different, the conceptual spaces constituted by those answers will never be identical. There is some level of judgement here.
- The name and axes of the code are constitutive. The examples can be taken to define the minimum conceptual space.
- Open question: whether our codes should be added to the LOINC answer set for existing codes (and for new ones as well).
- HL7 "getting out of the business of terminology maintenance": need to define what this means procedurally for value set definition and harmonization
- Many domain-specific sets cannot be represented in SCT or other standard terminologies; NEMSIS will become the steward of the NEMSIS code system to support these sets until such time as it is practical and advisable to submit them for inclusion in some other system.
Action Items
Action | Responsible | Description | Timeline | Status |
provide codes to CDC for evaluation | Jay | 5/30 | open | |
provide codes to Clay for NEMSIS code assignment | Jay | 5/30 | open | |
confirm 'assertion' vs clinical statement pattern | Jay | 5/20 | open | |
provide question list to Jaci | Sarah | 5/30 | open | |
update vocabulary approach document | Sarah | vocabulary principles, approach priorities, preferred systems | 2/17 | open |
provide trauma criteria | Clay | 5/13 | closed | |
SD questions | Jay | See issues | 2/10 | Closed |
PHIN VADS | Sarah | Contact Sundak | 2/24 | closed |
Issues
Issue | Description | Resolution | Status |
Run Report Scope | Event model contains hospital information: is this 'run report' information? | No, per Clay, 2/3/11 | Closed |
SD question 1 | Need OIDs, URN | URN: make one up, per B Dolin. OIDs: request a 'root' document OID and write our extensions, for later import into the repository. | closed |
SD question 2 | harmonizing sections with IHE, HITSP, etc. | Use CCD as appropriate, or downstream templates as necessary. No registry or process exists. | closed |
MDHT question 1 | approach for many questions: model question as separate template, create new association, use Type to assign template | confirmed by Sean | closed |
Coding strength | Are all RR codes CNE, except, presumably, ICD/RxNorm sets? | open |